On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 13:53, Jonathan Bartlett wrote: > > Gnome and KDE are NOT X implementations any more than GIMP is an X > implementation. Gnome and KDE are X _applications_. X implementations > include the server, the font server, and Xlib, and maybe a few other > things.
Jonathan, we will have to disagree on the semantics. I believe that a set of related applications and the interface to create them is an implementation. It is not a complete X package as it does not include the server (and by the way, a font is server is not required for an X server; X existed for years without font servers; font servers just make it easy to have one set of fonts for all X servers rather than having a local set of all the fonts on each server). There is a HUGE difference in the scope of GIMP and Gnome for this discussion. GIMP is pure and simple an X application (client). Gnome is a set of applications and interfaces that are mainly X clients but have the specific purpose of managing the user interface. That, in my book, is an implementation. AFAIK GIMP has no API for managing a UI, Gnome does. > This is not an issue locally. It's inter-process communication. That > overhead is there no matter what. It is not IPC, which has a specific meaning. It is network communication. There is overhead, but it can be optimized. 10 years ago there was a battle over which competing compressed stream implementation to adopt. In the end, X/Org bailed and put out the concept of LBX, with a poorly implemented sample in the code distro. NCD was the proponent of one alternative. The idea of a compressed network stream can and should be revived. Overhead is necessary, but it could be lessened, and its footprint lessened even more with good compression. > > So, X is not slow. Some X applications are. If you don't like these, why > not use different ones? Like XFCE? MWM? WindowMaker? Enlightenment? Hey I am the one saying it is not an X problem and that there are better performing alternatives than Gnome or KDE. And mwm itself is just a window manager; for the context of this discussion the equivalence would be to say 'Motif', the implementation, rather than just one application of the implementation. - rick warner -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
