On 18-Jun-2003/07:35 +1000, Peter Kiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi Jeff, > >> Sorry - no. there are literally over 30 programs capable of running >> smtp protocol which are not servers and cannot be classified as MTA's >> either. How is using these programs a violation of the TOS? > >I am not questioning the TOS. I am questioning the allowed use of SMTP >from dynamically assigned IP addresses.
You are confused. Outlook uses SMTP from dynamic addresses to send outgoing mail. Nearly every commonly used mail reader does. That is a CLIENT operation. Just because sendmail **also** has the ability to operate as a server does not mean that everytime it is invoked that the user is running a server. The sending SMTP process is the client. The receiving SMTP process is the server. Sendmail can operate in either or both of these roles. > >Just out of interest what are some of the programs you are thinking about? > >> You and Drew are the ones playing semenatic games by trying to equate >> the use of SMTP to be equal to a server. > >OK, but will you admit that in 99% cases SMTP is sent from a server? No. Millions of SMTP messages originate from Outlook Express, Netscape Messenger, and Eudora users. > In the >vast majority of cases it is the ISP's mailserver that is used. Your own words indicate that you have some understanding of the inaccuracy of what you said. I do agree that most SMTP client programs (regardless of whether they are also capable of running as servers) are setup to use a smarthost that has a fixed IP address and is registered in the DNS. What you do not seem to understand is that sendmail, by default, does not accept nonlocal SMTP connections (does not violate most common consumer TOS) and also does not deliver to the ISP smarthost. The latter may not be consistent with the restrictive practices of some ISPs. Tony -- Anthony E. Greene <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OpenPGP Key: 0x6C94239D/7B3D BD7D 7D91 1B44 BA26 C484 A42A 60DD 6C94 239D AOL/Yahoo Chat: TonyG05 HomePage: <http://www.pobox.com/~agreene/> Linux: the choice of a GNU Generation. <http://www.linux.org/> -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
