On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 06:08:10AM +1000, Peter Kiem wrote: > Jeff, > > > "server" being forbidden certainly appears in my TOS, but just being > > smtp capable, incoming or outgoing does not a server make. > > > > Don't confuse the use of certain protocols with running servers. They > > are not the same thing. > > What protocol is used to send email? SMTP! > Where does your mail client use SMTP to? A SMTP ***SERVER*** > > For you to be sending out SMTP traffic directly to AOL you have to be > running some sort of mailserver so yes you are running a server and in > violation of your TOS.
Hi Peter, Sorry - no. there are literally over 30 programs capable of running smtp protocol which are not servers and cannot be classified as MTA's either. How is using these programs a violation of the TOS? You and Drew are the ones playing semenatic games by trying to equate the use of SMTP to be equal to a server. It isn't. I understand the practical aspects for an ISP using this "killing a rabbit with tactical nuke" approach" but from an engineering point of view its sheer laziness and innapropriate. I have noticed in the many versions of this discussion I have seen and participated in that the people who think it "OK" almost always work for an ISP, or were people who didn't know how to protect their own systems from spammers. The majority of end-users who use SMTP are almost always thinking the opposite. > > Regards, > +-----------------------------+---------------------------------+ > | Peter Kiem .^. | E-Mail : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > | Zordah IT /V\ | Mobile : +61 0414 724 766 | > | IT Consultancy & /( )\ | WWW : www.zordah.net | > | Internet Hosting ^^-^^ | ICQ : "Zordah" 866661 | > +-----------------------------+---------------------------------+ > My current spamtrap address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > -- Jeff Kinz, Open-PC, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. [EMAIL PROTECTED] copyright 2003. Use is restricted. Any use is an acceptance of the offer at http://www.kinz.org/policy.html. Don't forget to change your password often. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list