Thanks! On 11/22/21 9:58 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 9:52 AM Sage Gerard <[email protected]> wrote: >> Thanks for checking on this. I'd expect something like a CoC more than a ToS >> in this case, but terms are terms :) > The discourse site is hosted by the people who make/run Discourse the > project, you can read about them here: https://www.discourse.org/team > > I believe that this mailing list is covered by the general Google > terms of service, here: https://policies.google.com/terms?hl=en-US and > the Google Groups content policy here: > https://support.google.com/groups/answer/4561696?hl=en > >> If you don't mind, I have a couple of follow up questions. >> >> Were "rank-and-file" Racket contributors alerted to this change in advance? >> Say, in a RacketCon speech? I may have missed it. > I announced it in the State of Racket talk at RacketCon. > >> Did a sponsor play any role in this transition? > The Discourse site is free based on the Free-for-open-source version > of Discourse, but no sponsorship is involved. > > Sam > >> On 11/22/21 9:49 AM, John Clements wrote: >> >> I’m actually very heartened to see the boilerplate here; it sounds like this >> is something we can edit, and not something imposed by Discourse. If that’s >> the case, then it certainly seems likely that we can find some language (or, >> more importantly, *lack* of language) that makes more of us happy. >> >> I, for one, am shocked to see binding arbitration language in here: I think >> binding arbitration is one of the most revolting elements of corporate >> control in our society today, and if we were unable to remove the binding >> arbitration clause, I would likely abandon discourse myself. >> >> Sounds like the next step is to come up with a TOS that’s acceptable to all, >> or find a way to remove it entirely. >> >> John >> >> On Nov 22, 2021, at 04:54, Norman Gray <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Greetings. >> >> On 22 Nov 2021, at 4:24, Sage Gerard wrote: >> >> But I have to ask, who wrote the ToS? Who is "the company" in its >> >> context? Discord? One of the Racket team's universities? A sponsor? >> >> I'm not sure who 'the company' is, either, but they appear to be called >> 'company_name' (catchy!), and that users are notified that disputes can only >> be arbitrated in city_for_disputes, under governing_law. *cough* >> >> Such curiosities aside, all of that does represent unappealingly more >> legalese than one expects for a mailing list. But since the current list is >> hosted at googlegroups, and since it's not obvious that Discourse Corp is >> more predatory than Google Corp (indeed, the former is dispensing >> freemium-ware rather than ad-ware, so are more attractive in terms of >> business model), it feels irrational for me to be too put off by it. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Norman >> >> >> -- >> Norman Gray : https://nxg.me.uk >> SUPA School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Racket Users" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/BEC261BF-C274-4221-8F62-C77D181ED1EF%40glasgow.ac.uk. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Racket Users" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/8bb7efbe-0d8a-32d8-c423-986e523e343c%40sagegerard.com.
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