Good questions: 1) Yes, Sam mentioned the discourse group at RacketCon, and there was some “hallway” discussion about it. 2) No, no sponsor was involved. Yikes! Indeed, I’m not aware that Racket *has* any sponsors currently, aside from the research and infrastructure grants that are being funded by the NSF et cetera.
John > On Nov 22, 2021, at 09:52, Sage Gerard <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks for checking on this. I'd expect something like a CoC more than a ToS > in this case, but terms are terms :) > If you don't mind, I have a couple of follow up questions. > > • Were "rank-and-file" Racket contributors alerted to this change in > advance? Say, in a RacketCon speech? I may have missed it. > • Did a sponsor play any role in this transition? > On 11/22/21 9:49 AM, John Clements wrote: >> I’m actually very heartened to see the boilerplate here; it sounds like this >> is something we can edit, and not something imposed by Discourse. If that’s >> the case, then it certainly seems likely that we can find some language (or, >> more importantly, *lack* of language) that makes more of us happy. >> >> I, for one, am shocked to see binding arbitration language in here: I think >> binding arbitration is one of the most revolting elements of corporate >> control in our society today, and if we were unable to remove the binding >> arbitration clause, I would likely abandon discourse myself. >> >> Sounds like the next step is to come up with a TOS that’s acceptable to all, >> or find a way to remove it entirely. >> >> John >> >> >>> On Nov 22, 2021, at 04:54, Norman Gray <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Greetings. >>> >>> On 22 Nov 2021, at 4:24, Sage Gerard wrote: >>> >>> >>>> But I have to ask, who wrote the ToS? Who is "the company" in its >>>> >>>> context? Discord? One of the Racket team's universities? A sponsor? >>>> >>> I'm not sure who 'the company' is, either, but they appear to be called >>> 'company_name' (catchy!), and that users are notified that disputes can >>> only be arbitrated in city_for_disputes, under governing_law. *cough* >>> >>> Such curiosities aside, all of that does represent unappealingly more >>> legalese than one expects for a mailing list. But since the current list >>> is hosted at googlegroups, and since it's not obvious that Discourse Corp >>> is more predatory than Google Corp (indeed, the former is dispensing >>> freemium-ware rather than ad-ware, so are more attractive in terms of >>> business model), it feels irrational for me to be too put off by it. >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> >>> Norman >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Norman Gray : >>> https://nxg.me.uk >>> >>> SUPA School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Racket Users" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to >>> [email protected] >>> . >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/BEC261BF-C274-4221-8F62-C77D181ED1EF%40glasgow.ac.uk >>> . >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/f00c26e6-f223-45d0-b725-f0b2fb421e4c%40mtasv.net.
