On 2024/10/02 18:52, Christian Schulte wrote:
> On 10/2/24 10:26, Stuart Henderson wrote:
> > On 2024/10/02 03:51, Christian Schulte wrote:
> >> Hello @ports,
> >>
> >> considering someone using Thunderbird on OpenBSD would very unlikely
> >> want to send HTML mails or plaintext messages with format flowed, maybe
> >
> > what makes you think that?
>
> <http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html>
people using OpenBSD to write email don't just use it for OpenBSD mailing
lists.
> Someone using OpenBSD will sooner or later want to ask for help on
> various topics. They will find the netiquette for doing so and would
> then need to research how to setup Thunderbird to adhere to those rules,
> or will stick to the defaults. Those defaults are not set in stone. If
> you search for "mail.override_list_reply_to" or
> "mail.default_send_format" for example, you will find quite a lot of
> confusion about those settings and quite some discussions about them in
> the various issue trackers.
honestly I find the misc posts from protonmail with it's stupid
"b64encode standard text parts" thing harder to read than the html mail
that gets through from time to time. (otoh that does mean I hit 'd' more
quickly, thus saving time ;)
> >> it would be ok to override some defaults of Thunderbird to stop it doing
> >> so by default.
> >>
> >> Would this be in option for the port?
> >>
> >> Index: mail/mozilla-thunderbird/files/all-openbsd.js
> >> ===================================================================
> >> RCS file: /cvs/ports/mail/mozilla-thunderbird/files/all-openbsd.js,v
> >> retrieving revision 1.4
> >> diff -u -p -u -r1.4 all-openbsd.js
> >> --- mail/mozilla-thunderbird/files/all-openbsd.js 1 Nov 2019 08:38:07
> >> -0000 1.4
> >> +++ mail/mozilla-thunderbird/files/all-openbsd.js 2 Oct 2024 01:37:37
> >> -0000
> >> @@ -2,3 +2,8 @@
> >> // enable systemwide extensions by default
> >> pref("extensions.autoDisableScopes", 3);
> >> pref("spellchecker.dictionary_path", "${LOCALBASE}/share/mozilla-dicts/");
> >> +pref("mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed", false);
> >> +pref("mail.html_compose", false);
> >> +pref("mail.identity.default.compose_html", false);
> >> +pref("mail.default_send_format", 1);
> >> +pref("mail.override_list_reply_to", false);
> >
> > seems like something to set yourself, or at most document in a
> > pkg-readme.
> >
>
> Displaying some information about how to setup Thunderbird to adhere to
> the netiquette after installation would help already. Issue is, for some
> of those preferences there is no UI and you'd have to research this
> yourself. Also defaults change from one version to another from time to
> time. Mostly after heavy discussions in some bug reports. Currently you
> could as well display "Please do not use Thunderbird for posting to
> mailing lists, as it will by default not adhere to preferred formats on
> mailing lists." Not talking about OpenBSD mailing lists specifically
> here. Giving some hints about how to do this, or even providing an
it really does vary - not all mailing lists are old-school technical
lists that follow these "standards"!
also it's not unheard of to use e.g. mutt for writing to technical
lists, but want to use a gui mail client when sending html mail.
or for non-technical people to be using an OpenBSD box setup and want to
be able to send "normal" email...
> example user.js would be very helpful. Normally, you would not want to
> tweak any options in the config editor without reading about what to
> change, why to change it and what consequences a change has. This is
> very time consuming and you'd read about various opinions about various
> options and would get confused quite fast.
I feel people are likely to get even more confused if OS start changing
these settings from defaults.
It's up to ${MAINTAINER} really but my vote is to not touch these.
