On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 09:25:27AM +0200, Toni Mueller wrote:
> stupid question (perhaps), but what in the base system uses group
> 'news' in the first place?

Nothing.

> If 'news' is only the legacy group for a
> UseNet news system (what I assume), then it imho makes much sense to
> use it instead of _inn. OTOH having a group '_inn' helps separating
> applications... oh well.

There is at least some other ports (news/leafnode) using the group
'news'.  However, it doesn't make much sense to run inn *and*
leafnode on the same machine, so IMHO, 'news' would be fine.


> > See the attachment for a proposal I wrote some days before
> 
> I did see your other PLIST file which you kindly provided in order to
> move paths.h & friends out of the way, but could not find that proposal
> you are talking about. Where should I look?

Sorry, I was tired yesterday. I meant to use @user, @group and @mode
tags for the (very few) programs that need it. Here's a context diff to
your PLIST:

--- inn.tony/pkg/PLIST  Sun Jul  9 12:16:16 2006
+++ ./pkg/PLIST Sun Jul  2 16:31:56 2006
@@ -1,8 +1,5 @@
 @comment $OpenBSD$
[EMAIL PROTECTED] _inn:550
[EMAIL PROTECTED] _inn:550:550:daemon:InterNetNews:/var/spool/news:/bin/sh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] _inn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root
[EMAIL PROTECTED] _inn:565:news:daemon:InterNetNews:/nonexistent:/sbin/nologin
 bin/actmerge
 bin/actsync
 bin/actsyncd
@@ -39,6 +36,11 @@
 bin/innconfval
 bin/innd
 bin/inndf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] news
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 4550
+bin/inndstart
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 bin/innfeed
 bin/innmail
 bin/innreport
@@ -67,8 +69,16 @@
 bin/procbatch
 bin/prunehistory
 bin/pullnews
[EMAIL PROTECTED] news
 bin/rc.news
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] _inn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] daemon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 4550
 bin/rnews
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 bin/rnews.libexec/
 bin/rnews.libexec/c7unbatch
 bin/rnews.libexec/decode
@@ -86,7 +96,11 @@
 bin/signcontrol
 bin/simpleftp
 bin/sm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] news
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 4550
 bin/startinnfeed
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 bin/tally.control
 bin/tdx-util
 bin/writelog
@@ -126,10 +140,7 @@
 lib/libinn.a
 lib/libinnhist.a
 lib/libstorage.a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wheel
 @man man/man1/convdate.1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] man/man1/pullnews.1
 @man man/man1/fastrm.1
 @man man/man1/getlist.1
 @man man/man1/grephistory.1
@@ -139,6 +150,7 @@
 @man man/man1/innmail.1
 @man man/man1/nntpget.1
 @man man/man1/pgpverify.1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] man/man1/pullnews.1
 @man man/man1/rnews.1
 @man man/man1/shlock.1
 @man man/man1/shrinkfile.1
@@ -351,5 +363,3 @@
 @sample /var/spool/news/innfeed/
 @sample /var/spool/news/outgoing/
 @sample /var/spool/news/overview/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 04550
-bin/inndstart


> It has been some time ago that I last used with UUCP, so I'm no longer
> intimate with it's requirements and interactions with INN. So I guess
> this has to wait. Btw, you seem to be much more knowledgable about INN
> than I am, so I guess that you should be the maintainer of this port.

Well, back in my linux days, I used to run an old inn talking with
it's feed via uucp, but I'm probably not the expert running a
high-traffic newsfeed.

> Right? Any objections?

Let's just get this port running before talking about maintainership,
o.k.?

[...]
> > - The build differs depending on wether wget and/or uucp are installed
> >   or not, so you may want to add those as dependencies. The latter
> >   (uucp) may be shielded by yet another flavor.
> 
> I already thought about the UUCP thingy, but was unaware of the wget
> issue.

It may be worth trying to patch inn to use our /usr/bin/ftp, but I
didn't yet have a closer look at it.

> > @newuser _inn:565:news:daemon:InterNetNews:/nonexistent:/sbin/nologin
> 
> So, for you the port works with these values for home and shell?

Not really, at least not with a quick test using rc.news to start
it.  But IIRC there were only problems with permissions of some
directories, none with home directory and shell.

Ciao,
        Kili

ps: I've been busy with other things the last days, but I hope to
do some testing later this week.

-- 
$ file `which soffice`
/usr/bin/soffice: symbolic link to /bin/rm
                -- Jochen Striepe

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