> On Mai 6, 2015, 6 vorm., Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > From experience with the show desktop feature and the problems when 
> > minimizing all windows I highly suggest to only minimize all windows. Don't 
> > even try to restore the minimized state when clicked again.
> 
> Sebastian Kügler wrote:
>     That is kind of the point of this feature -- it allows to click twice to 
> "peek" at the desktop.
>     
>     I know that there's a bunch of things that can ruin the state, that's 
> what I'm catching in reset() (from that point on, we can't decide if the 
> feature is active, so we reset its state and it can't unminimize all the 
> windows again. We know that we can't get 100% synthetically clean behaviour 
> (the whole showdesktop discussion), this plasmoid is there to emulate the old 
> behaviour, and that means also unminimize.
> 
> Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
>     > That is kind of the point of this feature -- it allows to click twice 
> to "peek" at the desktop.
>     
>     Well, that's what show desktop is for?
> 
> Martin Gräßlin wrote:
>     in that case I fail to understand why you go that route. Why not just 
> minimize and be done with it? The way it's currently is bringing back all the 
> bugs from kwin of the last decade in that area without the fixes :-(
> 
> Sebastian Kügler wrote:
>     The show desktop feature hides the panel. This breaks the workflow of 
> people who use the panel to trigger and untrigger the effect. This plasmoid 
> gives the old behaviour (which admittedly has its problems, but it's what 
> many users are used to).
>     
>     Note: you are questioning the very reason to have this plasmoid. We know 
> the feature can't be implemented perfectly, we just have to provide users a 
> way to get the traditional behaviour. If we change this behaviour, this 
> plasmoid becomes moot, and users are still left out in the rain.

> The show desktop feature hides the panel.

About which a lot of people complain. I haven't seen a statement from the UX 
group why it should hide them, other than "that's what the Dashboard did".


- Kai Uwe


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On Mai 6, 2015, 12:16 vorm., Sebastian Kügler wrote:
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> 
> (Updated Mai 6, 2015, 12:16 vorm.)
> 
> 
> Review request for Plasma.
> 
> 
> Bugs: 346837
>     http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346837
> 
> 
> Repository: kdeplasma-addons
> 
> 
> Description
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> 
> New Minimize Windows Plasmoid
> 
> This plasmoid allows to minimize windows on the current desktop. It does
> not mess with the KWindowSystem::showingDesktop flag, just allows to hide
> and show windows.
> 
> 
> Diffs
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> 
>   applets/CMakeLists.txt 7ada7acad6796bcb18e0f408f00b3720a8df2393 
>   applets/minimizeall/CMakeLists.txt PRE-CREATION 
>   applets/minimizeall/Messages.sh PRE-CREATION 
>   applets/minimizeall/package/contents/config/main.xml PRE-CREATION 
>   applets/minimizeall/package/contents/ui/main.qml PRE-CREATION 
>   applets/minimizeall/package/metadata.desktop PRE-CREATION 
>   applets/minimizeall/plugin/minimizeall.h PRE-CREATION 
>   applets/minimizeall/plugin/minimizeall.cpp PRE-CREATION 
>   applets/minimizeall/plugin/minimizeallplugin.h PRE-CREATION 
>   applets/minimizeall/plugin/minimizeallplugin.cpp PRE-CREATION 
>   applets/minimizeall/plugin/qmldir PRE-CREATION 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123653/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> Used it for a while.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sebastian Kügler
> 
>

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