Il 23 aprile 2012 17:42, Martin Gräßlin <mgraess...@kde.org> ha scritto: > On Monday 23 April 2012 13:03:56 Marco Martin wrote: >> On Monday 23 April 2012, Sebastian Kügler wrote: >> > Or put simply: Homework first. >> > >> > Now if the sprint would be: let's take two days to reflect on the current >> > state and define where we want to go, and then take 5 days to sit down and >> > clear the road for getting there, that would be an approach I'd be a lot >> > more happy with. >> >> yep, +1000 >> couldn't have said it better. >> it's a matter of responsibility > I really don't see your concerns and I will explain why although I never > intended to write that down in a public mailing list (out of fear some media > would discover it). > > My expectation from the sprint is that we will figure out a new interaction of > the shell and windowing system which is not possible at the moment. We have > pretty much reached what's possible with Plasma tells KWin what to do. But > turning it around (Plasma becomes a plugin to KWin) will give us complete new > possibilities which I will start to explore as soon as we are in feature > freeze. > > The result of the sprint will therefore be: > 1. Existing Shell is not touched > 2. A new Shell needs to be implemented > > This allows us to have some basic new requirements: > 1. QML2 only > 2. Qt5/KF5 only > 3. libplasma2 only > 4. Compositing only > (5. Wayland only?) > > Basically we can cut off the legacy world and completely concentrate on > pushing libplasma2 to support the new shell. After that is done, we will be > able to port the existing shell to libplasma2/QML2. > > So my expectation is that it will have the exact opposite effect of what you > fear. By turning libplasma2 into a requirement for any new work we force our > workspace developers to work on it. But we need the vision, the clear goal to > motivate everyone. > > First thinking we need to transit the complete existing shell is probably no > motivating factor to do boring stuff as libplasma2. We need the stick and the > carrot here. The new shell will be the carrot, the requirement for it has to > be libplasma2 the stick. > > Last remaining note: it's also the best for our users as it will continue on > our trusted and well known and stable Qt4/kdelibs4 code base :-)
^ all of this. > > Cheers > Martin > _______________________________________________ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel > _______________________________________________ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
