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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: thoughts on the 77mm limited lens


> I havent used the 43 seriously, so cant say.  Opinion on the 43 seems to
> be divided.  As so many like it so much I would doubt that any zoom will
> measure up though (please lets not go there again!).
> 
> I was actually very disappointed with the build and feel of the 43 when
> I handled it a PDML UK in Duxford.  I felt light and flimsy after the
> 77.  That's not to say its not well built, but just holding the 77 is an
> experience in itself and I expected the same.
> 
> The reason I don't have the 43 is largely because I don't shoot at that
> focal length much though.  I would always want longer or wider.  The
> only primes I have are a macro and the 24 and 77.  The reason I have the
> 24 and 77 is because those are 'my' lengths of choice.
> 
> The 24-90 is fantastic though and if you want a zoom you cant really do
> much better.  The build is consumer level, but the optics are top
> drawer.  It can look overpriced based on specs and build, but the glass
> is what you are buying.
> 
> Hope this helps...
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: whereswayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: 05 December 2002 11:06
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: thoughts on the 77mm limited lens
> > 
> > 
> > how does it compare to the 43mm which i have and really like
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 9:20 PM
> > Subject: RE: thoughts on the 77mm limited lens
> > 
> > 
> > > I wondered if you would ask that as I typed the email.
> > > 
> > > As I said, once you have used the 77, you will feel nothing 
> > else does 
> > > justice to your portraits.  The 24-90, which IMO is one of the best 
> > > zooms ever made optically and me equal second favourite lens(along 
> > > with the FA*24f2), does not compare to the 77 at all either 
> > optically 
> > > or in terms of build.  Of course it does have the added 
> > ability to do 
> > > other focal lengths.  The only problem with the 77 is that 
> > sometimes I 
> > > cant back up enough to get the shots I want in smaller rooms.
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: whereswayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: 05 December 2002 10:46
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: thoughts on the 77mm limited lens
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > how does it compare to the 24-90mm
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 8:50 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: thoughts on the 77mm limited lens
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > It is EVERYTHING it is cracked up to be, and more!
> > > > > 
> > > > > I would forget the 85 unless you feel like using the extra
> > > > weight to
> > > > > keep you fit, or REALLY need the extra stop or half stop
> > > > whatever it
> > > > > is.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Some debate which of the two has the best bokeh, and I
> > > > think it comes
> > > > > down to personal taste.  Both are slightly different in
> > > > this respect,
> > > > > but both are great.  Neither is probably better, just different.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The 77 is compact and much lighter than the 'big beast' 85.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I use mine for all my portraits now, if I am able to 
> > stand at the
> > > > > right distance for my subjects.  Otherwise I use the 24-90 or a 
> > > > > 28-70f2.8, for their versatility.  Once you see the results 
> > > > of the 77,
> > > > > you don't want to use anything else because you feel 
> > you would be
> > > > > selling your subjects short by doing so!
> > > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: whereswayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: 05 December 2002 10:10
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: thoughts on the 77mm limited lens
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > i am thinking of buying it and am wondering if it is all its 
> > > > > > cracked up to be? or is saving up for the 85mm better 
> > bet i am 
> > > > > > looking for a portrait come landscape lens come people even a 
> > > > > > macro lens with pentaxes marvelous convertor the heliocoid 
> > > > > > windout thing i currently use the vivitar 35-85mm for 
> > such work 
> > > > > > and am reasonably happy
> > > > > > 
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