There is no sense debating the point, as we shall never agree, and we have already overtaxed the tolerance of the list for political discussion.
Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 9:54 PM, P.J. Alling <[email protected]> wrote: > No not opinion, since Merkel has insisted on her refugee policies, > nationalist parties, I would hesitate to call them right wing as they are > not particularly conservative, in either the European or American sense, > have gained unbelievable ground in Europe. Le Pen of the Front National > has higher poll numbers than either of her major party opponents. With > France's system it's unlikely she'll win the 2017 election for president, > but she'll easily make the second round. The Austrian nationalists came > within a whisker of winning that countries presidency, that's not to > mention newer members of the EU putting up border fences and setting up > border patrols that are just short of re-militarizing them. > > The UKIP may not be able to win actual elections to the British > Parliament, but they were able to get a clear majority to vote the UK out > of the EU, do you think that would have happened without the refugee crises? > > All of that can be laid at Merkel's feet. > > The cost to her isn't just personal, it's also weakening her party and > it's major coalition partner. What will that do to Germany? Me? I don't > know, I don't understand German politics well enough to guess, but it > cannot be good. > > Tell me what she's done, to stop Putin's advance in the Ukraine? Has he > pulled his troops, (the so called little green men), out of the conflict? > Returned Crimea to the Ukraine? Stopped him from demonstrating his > contempt for NATO? Anything at all that can be attributed to any of > Germany's actions? > > The only thing that is holding Putin back is his lack of funds to continue > modernizing the Russian military. Merkel had nothing to do with that. For > that, you can thank the Saudis keeping the price of Oil and Natural Gas > low, causing no end of budget problems in Russia, and they're mainly doing > that to hurt the Iranians, though they're none to fond of the Russians > either. > > I'm not even sure that Germany would send troops to defend Poland if the > Russians rolled over the Ukraine, and decided they wanted Poland back as > well*. Let alone send help any of the Baltic States. All of them are NATO > members, (an attack on one is an attack on all), and that would break NATO, > which in turn would crack the EU, as if the EU wasn't already showing > cracks. > > *I'm not at all sure we'd send troops either, but that's another story. > > > On 7/15/2016 9:03 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 7:11 PM, P.J. Alling <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> You may disagree, it doesn't change the facts. >>> >> >> They are not facts, but your opinions. You are, of course, entitled to >> your opinions, but that does not make them facts. >> >> Dan Matyola >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >> > > > -- > I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve > immortality through not dying. > -- Woody Allen > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
