On Aug 22, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:10:34AM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> I'm not a full-time pro either. I'm a full-time writer, primarily a 
>> journalist, and that affords me a lot of opportunity for professional 
>> photography, so my equipment expenses are business expenses and  well 
>> covered by photography revenue. But there were times when I worked as an 
>> advertising writer when I was strictly a hobbyist. I still had photography 
>> maintenance expenses, but I always counted them as part of the cost of the 
>> hobby. LIke  you, I sometimes delayed repairs until cash flow was right. 
>> Spending money isn't fun, but it goes with the territory. Photography is an 
>> expensive hobby. 
> 
> Actually, I disagree.  Spending money is usually fun, and almost always
> prefaces fun.   It's earning the money to spend that tends to be a lot
> less fun.

Very true. Although these days I enjoy my work. 
> 
>> 
>> Paul 
>> On Aug 22, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Bruce Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Sadly this doesn't leave us "advanced amateurs" in a happy place. I
>>> don't shoot as much as a fulltime pro, I don't have the cashflow of a
>>> pro either, but unfortunately I have a pro's taste in gear. I have few
>>> lenses, but what I've selected is Pentax' fastest current glass and
>>> those are mostly SDM (except for a Ltd macro).
>>> 
>>> So I don't always have the dough to fix blown SDM motors. I'm just
>>> waiting for the right moment (and mindset) to get my twice-kaput
>>> 50-135/2.8 repaired again. (Meanwhile my MF skillz are improving.)
>>> 
>>> However, I've done my homework and I know I'll not do better
>>> elsewhere, so I've made no plans to do a wholesale brand switch.
>>> Pentax, for all its faults, is still at the intersection of
>>> performance, function and budget for me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> I expect to spend a certain amount on maintenance of my equipment. I don't 
>>>> know any pro shooters who don't -- whether they shoot Canon, Nikon or 
>>>> something else. I think my equipment expenses have been reasonable, with 
>>>> the possible exception of flash unit failures. But I think flashes in 
>>>> general are more failure prone.
>>>> 
>>>> Paul
>>>> On Aug 22, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Boris Liberman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'm with you, Paul, on this one. Pentax did not do as noble by not
>>>>> admitting the problem, but it stands to reason that the technology was
>>>>> being improved following consumer reports. I cannot tell from first
>>>>> hand experience, but I wouldn't be surprised if nowadays all these
>>>>> issues are hammered out and Pentax is merely suffering from bad
>>>>> reputation that SDM technology managed to acquire.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Zos Xavius <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Does the tokina variations of these lenses have SDM like the 50-135?
>>>>>>> If it were me I would just use the screw drive. SDM sucks anyways. I'd
>>>>>>> be thankful pentax put in a screw drive for backwards compatibility, I
>>>>>>> imagine they will get away from SDM entirely with new lenses.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pentax will not abandon SDM.. In lens focusing motors have become the 
>>>>>> industry standard. SDM is faster, more accurate and much quieter than 
>>>>>> screw drive. Pentax's initial attempt wasn't a perfect one. The motor 
>>>>>> could have been better. But I'm a heavy user who can't always take as 
>>>>>> good care of my equipment as I might wish, and I've had only one SDM 
>>>>>> motor failure on my three DA* lenses after at least 70,000 frames.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:42 AM, SV Hovland <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have tested this on my own K-7 and DA*16-50. I wanted to find out if 
>>>>>>>> this is a good solution for me and I did the test before the warranty 
>>>>>>>> went out. I found it to be perfectly good. It focuses just as fast as 
>>>>>>>> SDM, but with more noise of course. So I decided to not send my lens 
>>>>>>>> in and complain about slow SDM after all. I could wait to complete 
>>>>>>>> break down and continue with the "old" focusing instead.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Stig Vidar Hovland
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Fra: PDML [[email protected]] p&#229; vegne av Boris Liberman 
>>>>>>>> [[email protected]]
>>>>>>>> Sendt: 22. august 2013 09:09
>>>>>>>> Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>>>>>>> Emne: Re: Giving up on Pentax (probably)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Well, it was easier than I thought.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Here is the link:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/208353-how-deactivate-sdm-silent-autofocus-allow-screw-drive-autofocus-da-16-50mm-f-2-8-a.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Chris Mitchell
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The last straw has been that my DA* 16-50 has stopped auto-focussing
>>>>>>>>> again. The internal motor was replaced a couple of years ago (so out
>>>>>>>>> of warranty) and now it looks like there's another couple of hundred
>>>>>>>>> quid to be spent on it. And yes, I've cleaned all of the contacts and
>>>>>>>>> yes, my DA* 50-135 works OK on my only remaining K-7 body.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So the decision's nearly made to sell off the K-7, DA* 16-50 (either
>>>>>>>>> repaired or as is), DA* 50-135, a lovely F*300 4.5 (the one with the
>>>>>>>>> tripod mount), an FA-135 2.8 (probably my favourite lens ever) and an
>>>>>>>>> FA-50 1.7. I'll put the proceeds towards a backup Fuji X body and get
>>>>>>>>> the excellent 55 - 200 zoom to cover the long end of the range and to
>>>>>>>>> sit alongside my growing collection of Fuji X primes. I'll keep a
>>>>>>>>> number of MF lenses so may still be able to appear in the PDML
>>>>>>>>> annual...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Any guidance on how to price? Or if anyone's interested in making me
>>>>>>>>> any sensible offers, contact me off list and I'll get more details and
>>>>>>>>> photos arranged and we can sort out logistics.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yours sadly, Chris
>>>>>>>>> 
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