>....inherently unstable vehicle
Absolutely not true. Hundreds of millions of miles have been accrued with 
the Explorer with no stability issues.

> They just don't teach this in driver ed.
Don't they teach getting off the ccelerator & slowly nudging the vehicle off 
to the shoulder when control is an issue? I investigated cases where the 
driver introduced enough steering to either go violently off the road or 
induce tripping which rolled the vehicle.

No more from me on this matter.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: Ford claims ownership of images


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ken Waller"
> Subject: Re: Ford claims ownership of images
>
>
>>>
>> How about operators not understanding that vehicles like the Explorer are
>> not like other vehicles. The high ground clearance is there for a reason 
>> &
>> it produces operating characheristice different than the common car.
>
>
> I don't think it reasonable to expect yer average soccer mom to deal well
> with a blow out at 75mph in an inherently unstable vehicle.
> They just don't teach this in driver ed.
> In the Explorer situation, Ford apparently went against the tire
> manufacturers recommendations regarding minimum inflation pressure, the
> result being that a vehicle at speed was running on dangerously hot tires
> which would, at some point, delaminate and fail.
> Everything I've read about this from unbiased parties indicates that the
> Firestone tires (ATX, ATX II, and Wilderness AT) that were used on the
> explorers were perfectly safe, provided they were inflated to the tire
> manufacturers recommended  pressure of 35 pounds, and didn't fall below
> Firestones recommended minimum pressure of 30 pounds.
> Unfortunately, the Exlporer running hard tires was, from what I have read,
> quite prone to tipping, hence the recommnendation from Ford to run the 
> tires
> soft.
> Most people outside of Ford and their PR departments place blame fairly
> equally on both Ford and Firestone
> Ford should not have used those tires on the Explorer if they were 
> insisting
> on tire pressures nearly 30% lower than what the tire maker was
> recommending.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestone_and_Ford_tire_controversy
> "Ford internal documents show the company engineers recommended changes to
> the vehicle design after it rolled over in company tests prior to
> introduction, but other than a few minor changes, the suspension and track
> width were not changed. Instead, Ford, which sets the specifications for 
> the
> manufacture of its tires, decided to remove air from the tires, lowering 
> the
> recommended psi to 26. The Firestone-recommended psi molded into the tire
> for maximum load is 35psi."
>
> and
> "Goodyear tires to the same specification have a spotless safety record 
> when
> installed on the Explorer, although an extra liner was included into the
> Goodyear design after recommendations to that effect were made to Ford."
>
> It sounds like Goodyear didn't want to get into the same mess that Ford 
> put
> Firestone into.
>
> William Robb


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