> It scares me a bit that they would need thay type of engineering 
> expertise,
> I suppose it is inevitable though.

Welcome to today's world of big business, lawyers & lack of personal 
responsibilities.
Its a fact of life - kind of like what Dillinger (?) said when asked why he 
robbed banks - "it where the money is".

Most large firms employ technical advisors to assist in product litigation. 
I had that job due to my 40 years of experience in the auto industry 
covering all aspects of design, development, manufacturing & service.

> Operator error is unavoidable, manufacuterers need to take this into
> account, especially when peoples lives depend on their error not killing
> them.
> Most 4x4s fail miserably in this regard.

How about operators not understanding that vehicles like the Explorer are 
not like other vehicles. The high ground clearance is there for a reason & 
it produces operating characheristice different than the common car.


Kenneth Waller
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ford claims ownership of images


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ken Waller"
> Subject: Re: Ford claims ownership of images
>
>
>> Believe what you want.
>> I worked as a Mechanical Engineer in the design analysis group @ Ford for
>> over 18 years. My function was to investigate vehicles involved in 
>> product
>> litigation, assist in technical defense, attend depositions & trials
>> (expert
>> witness).
>
> It scares me a bit that they would need thay type of engineering 
> expertise,
> I suppose it is inevitable though.
>
>>
>> While I only handled a few of the Explorer rollovers cases, it was 
>> obvious
>> that most of the events were due to operator inexperience/operator error
>> like improper maintained (tire inflation)/lack of driving instruction
>> (controlling a vehicle with a blowout).
>
> Operator error is unavoidable, manufacuterers need to take this into
> account, especially when peoples lives depend on their error not killing
> them.
> Most 4x4s fail miserably in this regard.
> In construction, we have a term called variance. This is what could be
> termed the margin of error. For example, when installing roof trusses, the
> ideal situation is to have the truss completely covering the top plate of
> the wall. On a 2x4 construction, you can have perhaps an inch of top plate
> showing on the outside of the truss. Any more than that, and the structure
> is compromised, since the wall can now only shift another inch or so under
> the truss before there is a very real risk of failure of the truss system.
> My understanding with the tire thing is that Ford took away almost all the
> variance by recommending tire pressures that were very close to
> underinflation.
> Tire failure is inevitable at highway speeds with a loaded vehicle and 
> soft
> tires.
>
>>
>> ABTW, my parents did own a 61 Corvair Monza, a great vehicle that GM
>> killed
>> prematurely IMHO.
>
> It probably could have been a great vehicle, had it actually been 
> reliable.
> My dad's Corvair spent almost all of it's short life (he only kept it for 
> a
> year before he tired of it's reliability issues) in the shop, and when he
> went to trade it, discovered that it had almost no residual value at the 
> GM
> dealership.
> The thing was so bad that GM didn't want it back on a trade-in.
> This was a fairly common fate with the Corvair in this part of the world.
>
> William Robb
>
>
>
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