On Jan 3, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Cotty wrote:

>> The winder noise made certain you couldn't get
>> more than one candid shot of me, thus proving my point.
>
> And a fascinating point it is.
>
> One thing that occurred to me shooting with the R-D1 is that the  
> shutter
> sound is just a good old-fashioned click. No 'whir' at all.

Manual shutter re-tension in the RD-1 ... it goes click like any  
manual film advance film camera without a flipping mirror.

> I found this *very* useful in the mosque, for instance. With a lot of
> cameras, especially point-n-shoots but also some DSLRs, you get a  
> click
> and then a very electronic 'whir'. This instantly alerts possible
> subjects to the photographer's presence.


With K10D and E-1 bodies, the only noticeable sound is the mirror  
clacking down and up again (with a manually focussed lens or the DA*  
lenses on the K10D). The K10D is a bit clattery sounding. The E-1 is  
quieter, sounds to me like a Contax RTS II body: a very smooth, snick- 
snick. With the L1 body, there is a noticeable wheeze after the  
mirror clacking down and making the exposure ... a slightly noisy  
shutter re-tension servo. The Fuji F30 makes a little servo noise  
prior to making the exposure but nothing afterwards.

> ... Of course, if one engages the subjects then this is all  
> academic. But
> for candid photography, I like a simple click. It's easier to hide ;-)

You mean for "covert" photography. Candid does not require that you  
hide, it simply requires that you be unobtrusive. A small bit of  
shutter sound is not obtrusive in most circumstances, but I've been  
in circumstances where a Leica M's soft focal-plane-shutter 'click'  
was as obtrusive as a cannon going off too.

Godfrey

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