On Jan 3, 2008, at 6:10 AM, frank theriault wrote:

> On Jan 2, 2008 7:15 PM, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> ... It is definitely not what camera you have, but how you use it.
>>
>> But even after saying that, I still love rangefinder cameras.
>
> I agree with most of what you say, Tom.  I don't think I'd have ever
> said that one ~can't~ do street photography with either an SLR or a
> camera with a winder.  I believe that I said that a small rangefinder
> is the "preferable tool", insofar is it's "more unobtrusive" than
> other cameras.
>
> I agree that it's "not what camera you have, but how you use it", but
> surely as skilled and artful one might be, the smaller and more quiet
> the camera, the less chance it will be noticed.  Yes, you got a shot
> of me on the sly - the first shot.  You dropped the camera, let the
> winder go, and I heard it, asking "what did you do?"  The next shot
> was then taken away from you - unless you wanted a shot of me looking
> at you and the camera.  The winder noise made certain you couldn't get
> more than one candid shot of me, thus proving my point.

Unobtrusiveness is a matter of how the photographer acts vs how  
noticeable the camera is. Just because someone knows you have made a  
photograph doesn't mean that you cannot make several additional  
exposures unobtrusively and candidly ... I think you're mixing up  
"covert" and "candid".

I interact with my subjects. They know I have a camera and that I'm  
taking pictures. They know I've photographed them. Yet I still get  
candid photos ... even when I was shooting with a Hasselblad 500CM. :-)

I still love rangefinder cameras, however. A fantasy camera that I'd  
love to see is a Leica CL sized, interchangeable lens, rangefinder  
camera, based on the 4/3 System sensor format, with both high quality  
optical RF focusing system, electronically coupled rather than  
through cams and levers (you can drive standard 4/3 lenses with their  
servos or use a manual focus lens with electronic connection) and  
Live View. To keep it thin, make a small series of dedicated lenses  
and provide a mount adapter to allow full spec 4/3 System lenses.

A camera like this with a dedicate lens kit comprised of an 11mm f/ 
3.5, 20mm f/2 and 32mm f/1.4 manual focus lenses would be perfect. :-)

Godfrey


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