>> > So who doesn't know what they're talking about? >> > >> > Tom C. >> >> "Quote: Well, guess what? The sky IS falling. Two or more years ago >> those >> taunts >> were voiced when Herb (who has in depth knowledge of the camera industry >> financials), Rob Studdert, and myself were discussing Pentax's future." >> >> You were saying then that Pentax couldn't make money as a camaera maker. >> Well, guess what, you were wrong. > > John, > > Are you really this obtuse or just pretending to be? No one was saying > anything of the kind. We were saying that Pentax was in an undesirable > situation in the market place, volume-wise, profit-wise, and that it was > a > situation where Pentax was fighting an uphill battle against competition > that was much stronger. No one ever said they couldn't make money, > though > if you look at the facts they are making significantly less profit per > unit, > as was said back then. With the recent price drops on the K10D, the > profit > margin is likely shrinking further.
It would appear that Pentax is selling more K10Ds than it expected. That suggests lower unit costs, and more profit. Lower prices, I grant, mean less profit. But since this division is making much more money than it did, it suggests that the effect of the former is outweighing the effect of the latter. >> The present situation is totally different. Hoya has come along with a >> good offer for Pentax because it thinks the medical business is >> complementary to what it is doing, and has made an offer which Sparxx >> thinks is too good to pass up. >> > Can't argue there. > >> And that's it. Herb had predicted that Pentax would be bust by now. He >> also said that when that happened, the price of second-hand Pentax >> lenses (of which he had lots) would rise. That's why he wanted Pentax >> to go >> bust. And that's why he kept publishing anti-Pentax material. And he >> was supported by you. > > Wrong. No one said absolutely when this would occur. No one said "bust". > I'm laughing as I write this because your perception of reality and the > written word is so different than what was stated. On top of that you're > attributing motive, when Herb has purchased a K10D and some of the newer > lenses. If he wanted them to go bust would he be adding to their bottom > line? He bought a K10D a long time after he was predicting Pentax's demise on here, and he did so because his predictions about Pentax going belly up were proved wrong. Herb's motive was obvious when he told us that lens prices would go up after Pentax went broke. It was a ridiculous belief, but it explained his strategy. > You still don't get that no one said what was going to happen or when, > just that it seemed likely it might. Good grief! If they didn't say WHAT would happen, how could they say that it MIGHT? This complete absence of logic is sadly characteristic of everything you say. Two names. Samsung. Hoya. Pentax is > not, right now the same company it was 2 months ago, or 6 months. They > will not be as autonomous as they once were (which may be the best > thing). >> >> He was of course as far from reality with that as with everything else. >> If Pentax does disappear, I would think it is much more likely that >> lenses will lose their value, but that the better bodies will gain. >> People will want to be sure that they have a working body to use their >> lenses with, so will buy one or two extra bodies as insurance. >> Certainly, that's what I >> shall do. >> >> John Oh brother. > Tom C. When you run out of arguments and self-justification you resort to "oh brother". Hopefully we will never find out whether my prediction is right or wrong. John -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
