On Wed, 23 May 2007 00:04:03 +0100, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> He bought a K10D a long time after he was predicting Pentax's demise on >> here, and he did so because his predictions about Pentax going belly up >> were proved wrong. > > Do you consider two years a long time? John. What is a prediction? A > prediction is a statement regarding what one believes will happen inthe > future. Future, future, future. While I disagree with you at the most > basic level that he was predicting, or I was predicting, they would end > up > defunct, that was and still is, one of the many possible scenarios. In > any > case, I don't believe ANYONE stated anything with absolute surety, except > possibly you making statements that not even Pentax management was > making. > >> >> Herb's motive was obvious when he told us that lens prices would go up >> after Pentax went broke. It was a ridiculous belief, but it explained >> his >> strategy. >> > > I don't believe body prices would go up. Anyone that is in the hobby for > photography's sake will change brands. Only collectors would pay a > premium. > >> > You still don't get that no one said what was going to happen or when, >> > just that it seemed likely it might. >> >> Good grief! If they didn't say WHAT would happen, how could they say >> that >> it MIGHT? This complete absence of logic is sadly characteristic of >> everything you say. > > Because John, REASONABLE people don't speak in absolute terms. We all > spoke > of WHAT MIGHT happen. And it is.
Study the syntax. The IT MIGHT refers to the WHAT. If you don't define the WHAT, you can't say IT MIGHT. >> Two names. Samsung. Hoya. Pentax is >> > not, right now the same company it was 2 months ago, or 6 months. >> They >> > will not be as autonomous as they once were (which may be the best >> > thing). >> >> >> >> >> He was of course as far from reality with that as with everything >> else. >> >> If Pentax does disappear, I would think it is much more likely that >> >> lenses will lose their value, but that the better bodies will gain. >> >> People will want to be sure that they have a working body to use >> their >> >> lenses with, so will buy one or two extra bodies as insurance. >> >> Certainly, that's what I >> >> shall do. >> >> >> >> John >> >> Oh brother. >> >> > Tom C. >> >> When you run out of arguments and self-justification you resort to "oh >> brother". > > I was simply being kind and was at a loss for words. If I knew a camera > company was going out of business I certainly would not run out and buy > more > of the same because it will eventually stop working, likely not be > supported, and be worthless. > > Tom C. Let me explain it in short words. The scenario is that Hoya closes Pentax down. Like several people here, I have a lot of Pentax lenses, most of which will last my lifetime, unlike a camera body . The only thing that will prevent me from using the lenses is camera failure. If I try to sell the lenses, I won't get much for them, because nobody will want them. To change to a different system would cost thousands. So the sensible thing is to buy a couple more bodies, and by using them lightly hope to get at least 10 years use out of them, or even more. Digital camera technology is now quite mature. Improvements in picture quality are pretty small. Pictures I get from my *ist D are not hugely worse than my K10D. I do not expect that any camera produced in the next few years will be so advanced as to make either of these obsolete. So if Hoya DOES close Pentax, which I think is highly unlikely, I shall buy a couple more bodies. Probably a K110D and a K10D. I suspect some other people in my position will do the same. Whether body prices will actually rise, I don't know. But they won't fall as much as lenses. John -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
