You see, all us honest citizens wanted was a simple apology for being maligned as having broken the law. :-)
I take your statement "NO, it may be legal to own them here", below as such. See further below. Tom C. >From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" <[email protected]> >Subject: RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat can playPAL >systemDVD's >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:02:12 -0400 > >YEAH RIGHT - and I'll do that for you when the other >million totally wrong things posted here that >had to be corrected by me repeatedly year after year and are never >acknowledged. Your out of your damn mind. NO, it may be legal >to own them here ( not sure on the importation rule/laws on them ) >but if they were legal to sell here why are none of the major >brands avaiable or why are no units of ANY brands available at >any major U.S. chains? NO REPLY yet on that. I have absolutely no idea, and frankly I don't care. If it's legal to obtain and use a region free DVD player from an outlet that is not a major US chain, I'm happy to do so. > I think that is got >to be a **legal** licensing agreement issue like I suggested in >the beginnning of the thread, not some market force issue or >a "gentlemen's agreement" among DVD player suppliers. It's fine to think it. But stating it, as if it's fact without really knowing, is a different matter. >Besides, >the other argument like why would they have developed region >coding in the first place if they didnt have the legal and logistical >means >to enforce it? These questions remain unanswered so far... The last question has already been spoken to, if not answered. >jco > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >Tom C >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 6:36 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat can playPAL >systemDVD's > > >Your first statement simply stated they were illegal. Your second >statement >modified that stance slightly with the clause "from everything I've >heard", >but also reinforced your earlier contention by further expanding it with >"to >buy, sell or own". > >What we want from you is to have you say, "Well guys, I guess I was >wrong >and you were not breaking the law or doing anything illegal by buying, >owning, using, or hacking to make become, region-free DVD players. My >misunderstanding." > > >Tom C. > > > >From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" <[email protected]> > >Subject: RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat can playPAL > >systemDVD's > >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:29:02 -0400 > > > >I didnt state it as a matter of fact and I specifically > >stated "from everything I have heard". What the hell > >else do you want from me? I say the reason you cant > >buy any name brand ones here and cant buy them in any > >major US stores is because of LEGAL ISSUES, not > >because there isnt any demand for them which others > >have argued. I also put forth the simple question that if > >it was fully legal to be made/sold here in USA without any coding or > >cross-coded then why would the system have been developed in the first > >place which no one has answered... jco > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > >Tom C > >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 6:16 PM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat can playPAL > >systemDVD's > > > > > >This started John, with your following statement with reference to > >region code free DVD players : > > > >J. C. O'Connell wrote: > > > >"Those are out there but they are illegal." > >jco > > > >You then wrote: > > > >"It is illegal to buy, sell or own non-region 1 DVD players > >in or to north america from everything I have ever heard. > >Ever wonder why you cant just go buy one at Circuit Shitty?" jco > > > >You have yet to back up these statements, which were presented as > >factual, with anything other than more of your own words. > > > >By those statements, you implicitly called all of us that have bought > >or > > > >owned non-region 1 DVD players in North America, law-breakers and > >scoff-laws. We take umbrage with that and are awaiting clarification > >so > > > >that we can either continue using these devices with a clean conscience > > >or can devote the wretched things to destruction. > > > >Tom C. > > > > > > > >-- > >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >[email protected] > >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > >-- > >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >[email protected] > >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >[email protected] >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >[email protected] >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
