HOW MANY TIMES do I have to post this, illegal doenst mean the same thing as unlawful. I already posted that I believed the issue was one of licensing agreements. IF those licensing agreement agreements are broken by a DVD supplier, then it would be illegal in the civil law end of things. jco
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 7:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat can playPAL systemDVD's >From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" <[email protected]> >Subject: RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat can playPAL >systemDVD's >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:29:02 -0400 > >I say the reason you cant >buy any name brand ones here and cant buy them in any >major US stores is because of LEGAL ISSUES, not >because there isnt any demand for them which others >have argued. There are major name brand region free DVD players for sale in the US at retail stores, though not at any *major* US retailers I'm aware of. I submit to you that they are not selling them illegally, which you seem to imply. >I also put forth the simple question that if >it was fully legal to be made/sold here in USA without any coding or >cross-coded then why would the system have been developed in the first >place which no one has answered... jco > Because it was easier for the movie industry to do what they wanted to do without having laws. In fact, as has been shown in other countries, they knew that such action (having region codes) would raise free trade questions. And in fact in some countries, Australia and New Zealand, for instance, from Wikipedia.... "Many view region code enforcement as a violation of WTO free trade agreements or competition law.[citation needed] The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission has warned that DVD players that enforce region coding may violate the Trade Practices Act.[1] The government of New Zealand has also made a similar ruling.[citation needed] This, in practice, means that all DVD players sold in their territories have to be Region 0." Rather than have laws passed that would question the motives of the movie industry, which is obviously manipulating the system to make the most profit, they found it more expedient to adopt region coding without a legal process. Tom C. >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >Tom C >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 6:16 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat can playPAL >systemDVD's > > >This started John, with your following statement with reference to >region code free DVD players : > >J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >"Those are out there but they are illegal." >jco > >You then wrote: > >"It is illegal to buy, sell or own non-region 1 DVD players >in or to north america from everything I have ever heard. >Ever wonder why you cant just go buy one at Circuit Shitty?" jco > >You have yet to back up these statements, which were presented as >factual, with anything other than more of your own words. > >By those statements, you implicitly called all of us that have bought >or > >owned non-region 1 DVD players in North America, law-breakers and >scoff-laws. We take umbrage with that and are awaiting clarification >so > >that we can either continue using these devices with a clean conscience >or can devote the wretched things to destruction. > >Tom C. > > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >[email protected] >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >[email protected] >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
