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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Michael Chan
Sent: 3. desember 2006 00:40
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Subject: Re: 16-50 f2.8

Sorry about the chopped URLs; if someone wants to tell me how to  
embed them properly so they don't line break that, I'd appreciate  
it.  Also, if you see the dust spots, so did I. I performed my first  
sensor cleaning (heart-attack, but successful) after seeing those spots.

On Dec 2, 2006, at 3:29 PM, Michael Chan wrote:

> John,
>
> I have a 10-17 and love shooting with it.  It's an awesome lens.  I'm
> continually impressed with what it produces, but it is a fish with
> all it's corresponding caveats.   Here are several images shot with
> the Pentax 10-17 fish on the ist-DL:
>
> http://www.mcmm.net/viewimage.php?set=CoastJuly2006&i=IMGP1428.jpg&s=m
> http://www.mcmm.net/viewimage.php?set=CoastJuly2006&i=IMGP1429.jpg&s=m
> http://www.mcmm.net/viewimage.php?set=CoastJuly2006&i=IMGP1430.jpg&s=m
> http://www.mcmm.net/viewimage.php?
> set=oceanside_20060722&i=IMGP1604.jpg&s=m
> http://www.mcmm.net/viewimage.php?
> set=oceanside_20060722&i=IMGP1601.jpg&s=m
> http://www.mcmm.net/viewimage.php?
> set=Yankees_Seattle_20060824&i=IMGP2058.jpg&s=m
> http://www.mcmm.net/viewimage.php?
> set=lost_lake_august_2006&i=IMGP1752.jpg&s=m
> http://www.mcmm.net/viewimage.php?
> set=lost_lake_august_2006&i=IMGP1753.jpg&s=m
> http://www.mcmm.net/viewimage.php?
> set=lost_lake_august_2006&i=IMGP1759.jpg&s=m
> http://www.mcmm.net/viewimage.php?
> set=lost_lake_august_2006&i=IMGP1773.jpg&s=m
>
> I have decided to buy the 16-45 and hope I get the rebate fulfilled
> (though I do not have faith in rebates), and then see what price the
> 16-50 comes out at, and sell the 16-45 if it seems like the thing to
> do.  I really like the kit lens; I'm not really all that disappointed
> in it at all despite my earlier comment, but when I want _sharp_ I
> use my 28-m or 50-m normal (50 FA is finally on it's way from BH).
>
> Michael
>
> On Dec 2, 2006, at 11:12 AM, John Francis wrote:
>
>>
>> I was almost convinced I wanted the 16-45 until the announcement
>> of the 16-50/f2.8.  I never got round to buying the previous
>> (film-camera) short zoom to go with my 80-200, but this time I'm
>> probably going to get both of them.
>>
>> My problem is what to do until the 16-50 is available, especially
>> since I might want something wide before then for a couple of events.
>> I've got an old Vivitar manual focus zoom, but that's only a 21-35.
>> I'm considering picking up the fisheye 10-17 (especially with the
>> rebates extended until Jan 9th.), but that leaves me with a bit of
>> a gap in the mid-wide-angle range.  I suppose I could buy the 18-55
>> kit lens with a K10D, but I'm not sure how much I'd use it once the
>> 16-50 comes along.  The size isn't likely to matter much on a K10D,
>> especially with the grip, but I suppose I could hang on to it as a
>> walkaround lens to keep on the *ist-D.
>>
>> Decisions, decisions ...    What would you do?
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 07:48:57AM -0800, Michael Chan wrote:
>>> I have been restraining myself from buying the 16-45 for months now,
>>> anticipating the weather-sealed lenses.  I had not heard about a
>>> 16-50 2.8, which would likely be out of my budget range anyway, and
>>> with the rebate it's getting really difficult for me to control my
>>> LBA shakes.  Is the 16-45 that far head and shoulder above the kit
>>> lens?  I've been pretty impressed with the kit, but it definitely  
>>> has
>>> its shortcomings.
>>>
>>> On Dec 2, 2006, at 7:20 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>>
>>>> Quoting John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 08:11:40PM -0500, David J Brooks wrote:
>>>>>> Anyone heard if its happining.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would love to get this lens and the K10d
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Equine Photography in York Region
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The new lenses aren't due until March of next year.
>>>>> Realistically this probably means I won't be able to get my
>>>>> hands on one before my Las Vegas trip in early April :-(
>>>>
>>>> We are heading there in late April for our 25th wedding  
>>>> anniversary,
>>>> so maybe i'll be able to get one by then.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
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