Thanks for that Dario - I have only had a look at the K10D/EOS400D shots
so far but there is a big difference in favour of the Pentax as you say!

If it werent for the nobbled wireless control I would be taking pics
with one myself by now.  I am still holding out to see if there is
another model to follow which might tick all of my boxes, but am getting
more and more tempted by the K10D I must admit...

Rob


-----Original Message-----
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Dario Bonazza
Sent: 01 December 2006 08:52
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Subject: Re: K10D image quality


Yesterday I spent a couple hours comparing pictures with a friend who is
a pro in picture manipulation and pre-press services, sort of a wizard
with picture tweaking (and has been very critical with Pentax DLSR's
quality in 
the past).

We compared and optimized the following pictures:
K10D:
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/74252-5136-16-1.h
tml
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/74256-5136-16-2.h
tml
(one of the two, not sure which one)

EOS400D/Kiss DIgital X:
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/74250-5136-17-1.h
tml

Nikon D80:
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/74161-5136-17-2.h
tml

Alpha100:
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/74157-5136-18-1.h
tml

By direct comparison, the K10D picture wins. However, the big difference
really comes when you try tweaking the images (Shadow/highlight, Noise
Ninja, and the like). After proper tuning, there is a huge difference in
favor of the K10D: detail, dynamic range and "presence" (not sure how to
describe that perception, it's the feeling of objects being truly there,
so that they look real and you can even touch them). That's sign that
the image contains more info to work on.

Now my friend (who always criticized Pentax DSLR's) thinks the Pentax is
truly ahead of the bunch of 10MP cameras, and wants one for him too.

Dario

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Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 12:26 AM
Subject: K10D image quality


> There may be wailing and gnashing of teeth over on DPReview about 
> perceived problems with the K10D, but my initial impressions with my 
> new K10D are that this camera delivers
> astonishing image quality!  Images are much sharper right out of the
> camera (even with
> the same lens) than my istDL.  The colour balance and rendition are
vastly
> superior to
> the istDL and the tonal gradations and shadow detail (in fact dynamic
> range in general)
> are also vastly superior to the DL.
>
> Every shot from the DL had to be quite drastically tweaked in levels 
> to get rid of the red cast in every shot.  Levels, curves, selective 
> colour and slight selective saturation
> adjustments are part of my regular workflow for images from the DL.
>
> Last night, I found that a very quick and subtle tweak of levels and 
> curves were all I needed to get more than satisfactory results from my

> K10D files.
>
> They really do POP!  I also did an experiment with the same lens, same

> settings on the tripod, etc between the two cameras.  I shot RAW and 
> converted to JPEG with no
> adjustments whatsoever.  Unfortunately, I resized them a little too
small,
> so I'll redo it
> with larger files, but the difference between the two was staggering.
>
> In isolation the istDL shot looks okay.  When compared to the K10D 
> shot, the istDL shot is unacceptably soft, muddy, underexposed and 
> red.  The difference really did blow me
> away.
>
> Long story short...even though I had built the K10D up a huge amount, 
> it has certainly met my expectations.
>
> The only issue I've had is the shake reduction appears to be a little 
> intermittant. Sometimes it works (you can hear it during exposure) and

> sometimes it doesn't.
>
> Cheeers
> James
>
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