My disinclination to correct your misstatement does not mean that I stated it is so, especially when I'd stated immediately upthread how I actually did use it. So you are using your own statement as your proof that I said something, making you a fucking liar (not that that was in doubt previously, given your refusal to admit to your own statements on why old lenses should be supported when WR pointed out a major conttradiction in your position).
And focusing and composing stopped down can be faster, since focusing speed is pretty much the same from wide open to stopped down 1-2 stops and I don't have to pause and use the DoF stop-down to confirm DoF and adjust focus to meet DoF requirements. Of course, this only applies to bodies which can operate in both modes, like M42 bodies or Mamiya 645's. -Adam J. C. O'Connell wrote: > I specifically asked you WHY WHY WHY you did > It all the time (that was my error) and you replied because its > Faster, you didn't correct me and say you > Did it some or most of the time with your > Reply at that time so blame doesn't go only my way on this. > Secondly, its not faster anytime is it? > How is focussing and composing with the lens > Aperture Closed EVER faster when you have an open > Aperture body and lens? > jco > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Adam Maas > Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:17 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)- NOT > > Actually, I just dug through my sent mail folder to find out exactly > what I had said on the issue. I did NOT say 'all the time', I said this: > > "Hell, I don't even use auto-aperture function on my M42 lenses most of > the time on my M42 bodies (yeah, I still shoot with a Chinon CM-3 on > occasion, and even more rarely with my Spotty). > > -Adam " > > So, JCO, do I get an apology about you putting words in my mouth (Even > if you did misuse that phrase as well) or are you just a liar? > > -Adam > > > Adam Maas wrote: >> No, aparently you are unfamiliar with the general usage of the phrase >> 'all the time', which means 'on a regular basis'. >> >> -Adam >> >> >> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>> See , you changed your story. You initially stated >>> You shot stopped down ALL THE TIME which was the >>> Very reason I pressed on the matter because it was >>> Senseless way to opertate. >>> jco >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of >>> Adam Maas >>> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 9:54 AM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)- NOT >>> >>> Except, based on the caveats I gave (Close to wide open, in good > light), >>> your arguments are incorrect. >>> >>> Your arguments are only correct for small apertures and low light. IN > >>> which case, I focus wide open. And I rarely do the former, ant > typically >>> use my open-aperture only gear for the latter. >>> >>> -Adam >>> >>> >>> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>>> It is NOT faster to focus stopped down, the wider DOF and dimmer > image >>>> Makes it HARDER not easier to focus accurately. Why >>>> Do you think auto aperture cameras and lenses were developed >>>> Way back in the 50's? Because its easier and faster way >>>> To work. I know because I have been using those cameras >>>> For years and years too. Less DOF means easier focus. Period. >>>> I am not arguing how he works, I am arguing the REASON >>>> He gave. >>>> jco >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>> Of >>>> Shel Belinkoff >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 12:56 AM >>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> Subject: RE: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)- NOT >>>> >>>> You're just making a fool of yourself. What hubris to tell someone >>> how >>>> they choose to photograph or use their gear is wrong. >>>> >>>> Let me tell you something ... I don't know how old you are or how > long >>>> you've been photographing, but I'm willing to wager you're not as > old >>> as >>>> I >>>> and that you've not been photographing as long either. When I shot >>> with >>>> Spotties back in the late sixties, I'd often shoot with the lens >>> stopped >>>> down, and depending on the lens, light, and scene, I'd shoot @ 5.6 > or >>>> 8.0. >>>> I knew EXACTLY what I was doing. Shooting that way could be fast > and >>>> accurate. With the better finders of today - brighter and more >>>> contrasty - >>>> it's even easier to shoot in that manner. >>>> >>>> Anyway, YOU don't have to see it. It's what Adam sees that > matters. >>>> To call someone you don't know stupid and a liar here in a public >>> forum >>>> shows more about you and your character than you probably want us to >>>> know. >>>> >>>> Shel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> [Original Message] >>>>> From: J. C. O'Connell >>>>> See my last post, your reason for doing so is flawed >>>>> And there are other reasons why its worse too. >>>>> jco >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> Adam Maas >>>>> John, You Ignorant Slut, >>>>> >>>>> It's quicker and I can see what's in focus at all times. Simple as >>>> that. >>>>> Just because you don't, doesn't mean I can't. >>>>> >>>>> -Adam >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>>>>> When the thread title is stupid I am going to comment on it. >>>>>> Secondly why havent you told us WHY WHY WHY you shoot with >>>>>> M42 auto-aperture lenses and bodies stopped down all the time? >>>>>> I don't believe it, either your stupid for doing so or your >>>>>> A liar for saying so unless you have some good explanation >>>>>> For doing so which I simply cant imagine as I am a LONG TIME >>>>>> User of M42 bodies and lenses and that makes no sense whatsoever >>>>>> To me at this point. I'd love to hear your reason for doing so. >>>>>> Maybe there is something I am missing but I cant see it. >> > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
