Shel, I was actually referring to my M42 bodies. The Chinon CM-3 actually has quite a good finder on it (Late 70's vintage body), the Spotty isn't so good, but is still usable down to f4 or so.
-Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Nope, I believe Adam was describing using M42 glass on his D-series cameras. > > The newer cameras have both brighter and more contrasty viewfinders. > > > > Shel > > > >> [Original Message] >> From: J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >> Date: 10/15/2006 10:43:46 AM >> Subject: RE: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)- NOT >> >> You don't have a clue. We were specifically talking about using >> Auto-aperture M42 lenses or M42 bodies which support autoaperture. >> It has ZERO to do with Pentax current (D)SLRS. Nearly every >> M42 body equipped for autoaperture lenses I have ever encountered >> DOES have focus aids of some sort and they all go out at F5.6 >> Or so. >> >> Secondly, not that it matters, but brighter ground glass is >> Not always easier to focus. This is not the same as opening >> Up the lens on a given ground glass which is always easier way >> To focus. Ground glass focussing ease is a combination of contrast >> And brightness, not brightness alone. >> >> jco >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> Shel Belinkoff >> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:40 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)- NOT >> >> <SIGH> & <LOL> >> >> First of all, the newer auto focus cameras, including the DSLR's, don't >> have split image finders as standard. I'm not even sure that you can >> get >> one other than custom made. Had you ever used a new camera you'd know >> this. In addition, the screens, even the standard screens, are much >> brighter than the screens on older cameras, like the Spotties, K1000's, >> KX's, and so on. So, it's pretty easy to see through the viewfinder at >> smaller apertures compared to the earlier cameras. Your lack of >> experience >> with contemporary Pentax cameras is showing. You are speaking from a >> position of ignorance - which is not a very strong position ;-)) >> >> Just for grins, I attached a ST 105/2.8 to my istDS, set the aperture to >> F/8.0, and discovered that I had absolutely no difficulty focusing >> quickly >> and easily. All the more interesting is that it's a dull grey, overcast >> morning here and I was focusing on the tree in front of my office >> through >> window glass as well. >> >> Shel >> >> >>> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>> Yes but its harder to focus which makes it slower not quicker >>> Especially at smaller fstops. Most split image and other focus aids >>> In the viewfinders don't even work at F5.6 or slower so what >>> You are saying makes no sense. Focus will be slower and less >>> Accurate, and in low light your be making it harder to compose >>> Too. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

