Shel,

I was actually referring to my M42 bodies. The Chinon CM-3 actually has 
quite a good finder on it (Late 70's vintage body), the Spotty isn't so 
good, but is still usable down to f4 or so.

-Adam


Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> Nope, I believe Adam was describing using M42 glass on his D-series cameras.
> 
> The newer cameras have both brighter and more contrasty viewfinders.
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> Shel
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>> [Original Message]
>> From: J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>> Date: 10/15/2006 10:43:46 AM
>> Subject: RE: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)- NOT
>>
>> You don't have a clue. We were specifically talking about using
>> Auto-aperture M42 lenses or M42 bodies which support autoaperture.
>> It has ZERO to do with Pentax current (D)SLRS. Nearly every
>> M42 body equipped for autoaperture lenses I have ever encountered
>> DOES have focus aids of some sort and they all go out at F5.6
>> Or so.
>>
>> Secondly, not that it matters, but brighter ground glass is
>> Not always easier to focus. This is not the same as opening
>> Up the lens on a given ground glass which is always easier way
>> To focus. Ground glass focussing ease is a combination of contrast
>> And brightness, not brightness alone.
>>
>> jco
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> Shel Belinkoff
>> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:40 PM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)- NOT
>>
>> <SIGH> & <LOL>
>>
>> First of all, the newer auto focus cameras, including the DSLR's, don't
>> have split image finders as standard.  I'm not even sure that you can
>> get
>> one other than custom made.  Had you ever used a new camera you'd know
>> this. In addition, the screens, even the standard screens, are much
>> brighter than the screens on older cameras, like the Spotties, K1000's,
>> KX's, and so on.  So, it's pretty easy to see through the viewfinder at
>> smaller apertures compared to the earlier cameras.  Your lack of
>> experience
>> with contemporary Pentax cameras is showing.  You are speaking from a
>> position of ignorance - which is not a very strong position ;-))
>>
>> Just for grins, I attached a ST 105/2.8 to my istDS, set the aperture to
>> F/8.0, and discovered that I had absolutely no difficulty focusing
>> quickly
>> and easily.  All the more interesting is that it's a dull grey, overcast
>> morning here and I was focusing on the tree in front of my office
>> through
>> window glass as well.
>>
>> Shel
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>>> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>>> Yes but its harder to focus which makes it slower not quicker
>>> Especially at smaller fstops. Most split image and other focus aids
>>> In the viewfinders don't even work at F5.6 or slower so what
>>> You are saying makes no sense. Focus will be slower and less
>>> Accurate, and in low light your be making it harder to compose
>>> Too.
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