frank theriault wrote:
> On 10/10/06, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Frank, with the greatest respect for you, biologist (and I am one by
>>training) call it rape.  It is forced sexual contact and the females do
>>have the capacity to agree or disagree with the situation.  The normal
>>behavior for the females in these instances is to get the hell away.
>>sometimes the females are drown in the frenzy.  whether the males
>>"understand when a female says no" is debatable; they just know that in
>>a group/gang setting, they gotta do whatever they can to get their sperm
>>in the females cloaca.
>>
>>Now I fully understand what the issue is with the title.  You, shel and
>>Tim think by "anthropomorphizing" the ducks we are "lessing" the crime
>>of rape.  I can assure you that I would never do that.  By calling what
>>a gang of male mallards do to a female mallard "rape" maybe you feel we
>>are making "rape" seem like a normal or natural event.  It is "normal"
>>for ducks, but I would never say it is natural or normal for humans.  It
>>is a horrible despicable crime against humanity.
>>
> 
> 
> I'm sure you're right, Christian.  I don't doubt that biologists call
> it rape - if it's ducks or any other dumb animal that's doing it.
> 
> If a biologist is describing the situation to another biologist, I
> have no problem with that - it is, in effect, a term of art.
> 
> It in no way means the same thing as the violent sexual attack of one
> human upon another - truly one of the most heinous and despicable acts
> that one person can perpetrate upon another.
> 
> Given how loaded with emotion the word rape is, I would submit that to
> use it in everyday conversation when referring to ducks is most
> inappropriate.  However, I could be wrong.
> 
> cheers,
> frank

Frank,

Unfortunately, that is essentially the only word in english available to 
cover non-consensual sex. Emotionally laden the word most certainly is. 
But just because they aren't human doesn't make the ducks actions any 
less brutal. And what they do is rape.

-Adam


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