frank theriault wrote: > On 10/9/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Tim, >> >>Because the title is the only way to accurately describe the situation. >>Natural selection is often rather nasty (If you think this is bad, go >>read about Orca breeding patterns. They're nasty, and with beings far >>closer to sentience than a Mallard). >> > > > Adam, > > With the greatest of respect, I must disagree. > > Rape is forced sexual intercourse. It implies a non-consentual act. > > Ducks don't have the capacity to agree or disagree with these things - > it's pure animal instinct, not reasoned consent or lack thereof - and > I mean that from both the male and female perspective. The male ducks > can't be said to understand when a female says no, any more than a > female can be said to consent to the sexual act. > > Whatever is happening among those ducks, brutish and ugly as it might > be, to call it rape is to demean the experience of victims of sexual > assault everywhere. > > cheers, > frank >
Frank, with the greatest respect for you, biologist (and I am one by training) call it rape. It is forced sexual contact and the females do have the capacity to agree or disagree with the situation. The normal behavior for the females in these instances is to get the hell away. sometimes the females are drown in the frenzy. whether the males "understand when a female says no" is debatable; they just know that in a group/gang setting, they gotta do whatever they can to get their sperm in the females cloaca. Now I fully understand what the issue is with the title. You, shel and Tim think by "anthropomorphizing" the ducks we are "lessing" the crime of rape. I can assure you that I would never do that. By calling what a gang of male mallards do to a female mallard "rape" maybe you feel we are making "rape" seem like a normal or natural event. It is "normal" for ducks, but I would never say it is natural or normal for humans. It is a horrible despicable crime against humanity. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
