On 10/10/06, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Frank, with the greatest respect for you, biologist (and I am one by
> training) call it rape.  It is forced sexual contact and the females do
> have the capacity to agree or disagree with the situation.  The normal
> behavior for the females in these instances is to get the hell away.
> sometimes the females are drown in the frenzy.  whether the males
> "understand when a female says no" is debatable; they just know that in
> a group/gang setting, they gotta do whatever they can to get their sperm
> in the females cloaca.
>
> Now I fully understand what the issue is with the title.  You, shel and
> Tim think by "anthropomorphizing" the ducks we are "lessing" the crime
> of rape.  I can assure you that I would never do that.  By calling what
> a gang of male mallards do to a female mallard "rape" maybe you feel we
> are making "rape" seem like a normal or natural event.  It is "normal"
> for ducks, but I would never say it is natural or normal for humans.  It
> is a horrible despicable crime against humanity.
>

I'm sure you're right, Christian.  I don't doubt that biologists call
it rape - if it's ducks or any other dumb animal that's doing it.

If a biologist is describing the situation to another biologist, I
have no problem with that - it is, in effect, a term of art.

It in no way means the same thing as the violent sexual attack of one
human upon another - truly one of the most heinous and despicable acts
that one person can perpetrate upon another.

Given how loaded with emotion the word rape is, I would submit that to
use it in everyday conversation when referring to ducks is most
inappropriate.  However, I could be wrong.

cheers,
frank
-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

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