Ryan Brooks wrote:
> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> 
>>On Aug 27, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Ryan Brooks wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>>>The only complaints about crop factors and telephoto's I've run acros
>>>>are about 85's. Not many people are happy that their uber-pricey
>>>>portrait tele's are now too long for general use and the 50's  
>>>>don't have
>>>>the bokeh of those 85's. The biggest complainers seem to be the Canon
>>>>users (but Canon 85 f1.2L's are ridiculously expensive).
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>
>>>My complaint is about normal lengths, ala 50mm.  A 31mm perspective is
>>>fine, but the 31mm focal length doesn't look "normal" at all to me.
>>>    
>>
>>I'm not sure what you're saying, Ryan. If you're using a 16x24mm  
>>sensor and fit a 35mm lens, you get the same field of view as you do  
>>with a 50mm lens fitted on a 24x36mm film body. That implies the same  
>>perspectives as well, since perspective is a function of distance. A  
>>31mm lens is a little wider than that film 'normal' but is still  
>>within the range of normal.
>>
>>What about the 31mm focal length doesn't look "normal" to you on your  
>>*ist D?
>>  
> 
> It appears to be a crop of a wide angle lens, which it is.
> 
> In particular, informal head and shoulders shots look a bit odd if I'm 
> close to the subject.  The shoulder may seem enlarged if I'm taking a 
> profile, for example.  Whereas a 50mm would compress this distance more.
> 
> I thought I would be at home with the 31mm limited on the D, but using a 
> wide angle lens to achieve a normal-length crop is a bit wonky to me.  I 
> still like it, I wish I was using a 50mm focal length instead of a 31mm 
> lens cropped.
> 
> 
> -R
> 
> 

But 50mm on film is just a crop of a WA as well (since a 50mm is a wide 
on all larger formats), that's how different formats determine different 
fields of view. Perspective is entirely a function of differnce, but the 
31 is closer to a true normal on DX format digital than 50mm is on 35mm 
film (50mm is actually a telephoto lens, 43mm is of course the true 
normal. DX normal is 29mm after rounding to the nearest whole mm).

-Adam

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