Likely my fault!! 

Jack

--- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Wnew! We finally got that straightened out. Okay, I agree :-).
> Paul
> 
> Jul 1, 2006, at 8:44 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
> > No! My point was (if I remember back that far) that it WOULDN'T be
> > easier for me. IOW, I took issue with his point.
> > Reason: I would only allow the lab to do the film processing
> > (developing) and, knowing myself, I'd be compelled to do all other
> > "processing" up to the point of determining the need for a
> > "professional" scan and the making of a large (larger than 8x10)
> print.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Okay, sounds good. But I'm curious as to why this is easier than
> >> digital? I thought that was the point of the thread??
> >> Paul
> >> On Jul 1, 2006, at 6:28 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sorry my writing is so muddled.
> >>> Actually I only use a mini-lab for print film. More often than
> not
> >>> (these days) I ask for a CD only. (and yes, I want the negatives
> >> back.
> >>> BG)
> >>> I review the CD images, together with selected negs., on a light
> >> box.
> >>> Any that I feel compelled to pursue for possible enlargement I
> have
> >>> professionally scanned. I then process in PS and burn a 'final'
> >> version
> >>> (maybe 'til the next time I open it) for storage pending
> >> circumstances
> >>> requiring an enlargement.
> >>> The occasional roll of slides, has been going to Kodak. In this
> >> small
> >>> town (50,000 +/-) Kodak only picks up from chain locations and
> only
> >>> once a week. Can take two weeks to get them back. If several
> rolls
> >>> involved, they're taken to a Sacramento lab for processing.
> >>> Slides are totally reviewed on a light box and professionally
> >> scanned,
> >>> reviewed and re-burned by me if deemed worthy.
> >>> By my choice, my image production level is nothing resembling
> what
> >> it
> >>> once was. True of many aspects of my life.
> >>>
> >>> Jack
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hello Jack,
> >>>>
> >>>> So what do you do with the processed film?  Are we talking
> slides
> >> or
> >>>> negatives?
> >>>>
> >>>> -- 
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> Bruce
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Saturday, July 1, 2006, 2:00:42 PM, you wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> JD> What I want from a mini-lab is ONLY the film processing.
> >> Nothing
> >>>> else.
> >>>>
> >>>> JD> Jack
> >>>>
> >>>> JD> --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> I don't understand our answer. You say that you want others to
> >>>>>> process
> >>>>>> your images. But you can't imagine turning over a card full of
> >>>> images
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> to a lab. You can't have it both ways.
> >>>>>> Paul
> >>>>>> On Jul 1, 2006, at 4:09 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Mini-lab prints from film are, for me, only proofs. Often I
> >> only
> >>>>>> ask
> >>>>>>> for a CD.
> >>>>>>> My weakness is the fact that I have a version of Photoshop
> and
> >>>>>> minimal
> >>>>>>> resistance when it comes to allowing another to "process" my
> >>>>>> images.
> >>>>>>> Can't imagine turning over a card full of images to a
> mini-lab.
> >>>>>> Maybe
> >>>>>>> at an in-law birthday party and lawn sale, but nothing else.
> >>>>>>> Point #3 IS valid for me. IOW, I know myself.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jack
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Point 3 isn't valid either. If lab processing is the way you
> >>>> want
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> go, you can drop off a memory card at any halfway decent lab
> >>>> and
> >>>>>> pick
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> up your prints in a couple of hours. The minilab that used
> to
> >>>>>> process
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> my color neg film claims they can produce even nicer prints
> >>>> from
> >>>>>> best
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> quality jpegs. I haven't had any reason to try them, but I
> >>>> might.
> >>>>>> But
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> even when I was shooting color film, I regarded those prints
> >> as
> >>>>>>>> nothing
> >>>>>>>> more than proofs. I would then scan the best frames and make
> >> my
> >>>>>> own
> >>>>>>>> prints. I never found a lab that did a better job at a
> >>>> reasonable
> >>>>>>>> price.
> >>>>>>>> Paul
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 1, 2006, at 1:30 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Jens,
> >>>>>>>>> Actually, your point #3 is the only one that has true
> >>>> application
> >>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>> one considers digital in general.
> >>>>>>>>> All are valid if specific brands are considered.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Jack
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --- Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 1st
> >>>>>>>>>> Speed, is one thing. 2,5 fps and 36 shots in a row.
> >>>>>>>>>> No Pentax DSLR can do that.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 2nd
> >>>>>>>>>> Annother thing is that there's NO crop factor. Meaning
> more
> >>>> wide
> >>>>>>>>>> angle for
> >>>>>>>>>> the buck.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 3rd
> >>>>>>>>>> It's so easy to shoot a film, give it to the lab and then
> >>>> pick
> >>>>>> up
> >>>>>>>>>> nice
> >>>>>>>>>> photographs. No hazzle with editing in the computer,
> >>>> cropping,
> >>>>>>>>>> resizing,
> >>>>>>>>>> printing etc.
> >>>>>>>>>> When the last shot is finished, your work is already done!
> >>>>>> Digital
> >>>>>>>>>> photography is for people that are either rather
> uncritical
> >>>> or
> >>>>>>>> have a
> >>>>>>>>>> lot of
> >>>>>>>>>> time on their hands.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> That three very good reason to shoot film.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Jens Bladt
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.jensbladt.dk
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> >>>>>>>>>> Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>> vegne
> >>>>>>>> af
> >>>>>>>>>> Jack
> >>>>>>>>>> Davis
> >>>>>>>>>> Sendt: 1. juli 2006 18:18
> >>>>>>>>>> Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> >>>>>>>>>> Emne: Re: Coming Soon - A new K-mount Film Camera
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> 
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