On 2/7/06, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Give me  a brake, Cotty, I've been photograping for 40-45 years - digitally
>for the last three.. I do know how to meter. I also know several digital
>photographers who,  just like me, underexposes 0.3-0.5 F-stop ALL THE TIME
>in order to avoid burned out highlights. Then comes colour problems, that
>has to be dealt with. I can't really show you a "before and after" editing
>exsample, because I shoot RAW exclusively. Already in the RAW conversion,
>there's some - perhaps 25-50% of the total editing. Don't tell me you shoot
>digital and do not edit. I don't know anybody who does.

Er, if you read the attribution lines below, you will find that I did
not write the post - Aaron did. Please get your facts right.

My original reply to your post was thus:

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On 1/7/06, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Digital
>photography is for people that are either rather uncritical or have a lot of
>time on their hands.

Soprry Jens, but you're nuts pal!

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I even left the spelling error in.  I stand by my statement that you're
nuts pal!  Digital photography is NOT for people who are uncritical NOR
who have a lot of time on their hands as you say. That is being
offensive to a lot of people who put time and energy into something that
you casually wave off with a sweeping and snide remark. I responded in
an appropriate way IMO.

Now if you'd care to read the text below, you will see that I did not
mention your metering ability once.

No apology needed.





>
>Jens Bladt
>http://www.jensbladt.dk
>+45 56 63 77 11
>+45 23 43 85 77
>Skype: jensbladt248
>
>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Aaron
>Reynolds
>Sendt: 2. juli 2006 03:50
>Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Emne: Re: Coming Soon - A new K-mount Film Camera
>
>
>On Jul 1, 2006, at 6:56 PM, Jens Bladt wrote:
>
>> I don't know about P&S cameras, but my Pentax DSLR's doesn't deliver
>> usable
>> photographs without editing - they would be pale, unsharp and dull.
>> Editing
>> is a must.
>> In order to avoid to much contrast (lost mid-tones) or burned out high
>> lights (Improve dynamics) I set the camera to make rather dull
>> pictures. I
>> think I have to edit more than 95% of all exposurers in order to get
>> decent
>> photographs.
>
>What your problem is, it appears, is your ability to meter.  Compare it
>to shooting slides, except that you have the ability to control
>contrast easily while shooting.  Once you know how your camera meters
>and how it performs in different contrast situations, you can set it
>appropriately.  As to sharpness -- if it's always not sharp enough, why
>are you not turning the sharpness up?  If you're overly concerned about
>losing highlight or shadow, you could always bracket if you don't trust
>your own judgment.
>
>>  When I use film, the lab takes care of this. I don't believe
>> this is the case with digital printing.
>
>Actually, if you are going to a "regular" minilab, your digital files
>are going through the same averaging process that your negatives go
>through.  If you're having custom prints made, they are not.  So, in
>fact, you can just send them your dull files.  You should try it --
>around here it's cheap as dirt.
>
>> Digital is slow and very time consuming. But it's VERY, VERY
>> affordable!
>
>Meanwhile, when I shoot with digital professionally, I am doing it
>because it's so much faster to turn around the image.  Film is slow and
>time consuming.  Digital is fast fast fast.  If you think film is fast
>simply because you turn over all control of your image to a lab, you're
>not making a valid comparison -- do the same with your digital and see
>what happens.
>
>-Aaron

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Cheers,
  Cotty


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