On Apr 21, 2006, at 8:14 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

On 21 Apr 2006 at 19:41, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

The results were surprising, and quite conclusive. Consistency of
rendering was always enhanced when an ICC profile was embedded. For a
measly couple of  worth of data, particularly when some folks want to
post 200Kbyte image files for people to browse, I don't understand
the big deal about embedding them. If they're truly ignored by all
but the very few applications, why not? It doesn't hurt anything and
even at 28.8Kbps dialup speeds would only add 2-3 seconds per image
to download. Crap that isn't color management sensitive, like all the
stupid dancing whirlygigs and other nonsense that people embellish
their sites with, don't have to worry about it. (I often turn the
browser display of graphics off when I see that crap anyway.)

Enhanced? It either works or it doesn't work. It's as easy to prove whether it does on not by simply displaying an Adobe RGB formatted and ICC embedded image on any windows browser. Inevitably the image will be rendered obviously non-
colour managed.

Perhaps you don't understand. The images were set to be in sRGB colorspace. Each image was saved with and without an sRGB ICC embedded.

I said, again, 'the consistency of the rendering was enhanced when an ICC profile was embedded'. On both platforms (Mac OS X and Windows XP), in 8 different browsers we saw the same things. It was measurable. That's what we were looking to test for, to see if there was an observable difference in the consistency of rendering, not whether the browsers would read alternative colorspace profiles.

Send me the images that you and your associate tested to derive your results
and I'll use my screen colorimeter to test them and report back.

Sorry, the tests were done three years ago ... I'm pretty sure I still have the files and data somewhere, but a quick search hasn't brought them up. They're probably in one of my system archives as they weren't a part of my regular photo work, just some testing for web display.

Godfrey

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