On Tuesday, 7 May 2024 03:19:30 CEST Duncan wrote:
> So I run pan on wayland now and haven't had this set for awhile as AFAIK
> the standard was X-specific and the gtk folks saw no continued use for it
> so there's no similar XDG/wayland standard. 

AFIU, this may be more related to window manager (e.g. kwin) than X or 
Wayland, but that does not make much difference for Pan.

> There's still a notification
> tray in kde/plasma 5/6 running on wayland but it seems to be kde/plasma or
> possibly qt specific; no non-kde/plasma apps appear to use it.

The only notification mechanism left is based on dbus.

> Anyway, pan's "StatusIcon" should correspond to:
> 
> Preferences > Miscellaneous > System Tray Behavior > Minimize to tray

Good point. Without StatusIcon, this option is no longer used, I'll have to 
remove it.

> I always wished (and still wish, now on wayland) the feature would be
> fixed to work correctly, including with window-manager-close actually
> traying pan instead, but as the said functionality seems to be kde/plasma
> specific on wayland and pan's gtk-based, I suppose there's less chance of
> ever actually having it working /correctly/ now than ever, so ... I guess
> might as well just remove the functionality entirely.

Since this feature is deprecated in Gtk3, it won't be fixed. I don't even know 
if StatusIcon is available in Gtk4.

> (Besides, with today's relatively higher network speeds and faster solid-
> state "disks", there's less /need/ these days to have "a trayed/
> backgrounding pan", than there was years ago when especially-cold-cache
> startup wasn't almost-instant and downloading a movie over dialup easily
> took days...)

Indeed. I think Pan is more suited to "interactive" usenet browsing. There are 
other solutions to download in the background, hellanzb for instance.

All the best



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