----- Original Message ----- From: "Duncan" <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> To: <pan-users@nongnu.org> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 15:09 PM Subject: [Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies
> Jim Henderson <hende...@gmail.com> posted > ghrv3e$rk...@ger.gmane.org, excerpted below, on Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:01:34 > +0000: > >> On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:50:40 -0600, HarryB wrote: >> >>> New Pan (v0.132) user, running under Debian 4.0 and KDE 3.5.10. >>> >>> I have been able to post a new message to the newsgroup >>> rec.bicycles.tech and one or two replies, but additional replies fail >>> because the server rejects them and returns the following error: "441 >>> Posting Failed (Rejected by POST filter)" . >>> >>> I tried the same in 0.test and the results were the same: I could post >>> at least one reply to my initial message, but subsequent replies >>> failed. >>> >>> So, I booted into Windows and fired up Free Agent, my old newsreader. I >>> was able to reply without a problem. So, it appears that the problem is >>> with Pan and not my news server, bellsouth.net. >>> >>> What doesn't my news server like about Pan's replies? >> >> You'll probably have to ask the provider. Most NNTP servers can apply a >> script against headers and message contents and reject based on content >> - only the provider can tell you why your post was rejected since they >> maintain the filter. > > Seconded. > > That's a filter on the server side, not pan, tho it's plausible the > filter is triggering on a header pan uses that Free Agent doesn't. > > One header difference between pan and what I know of Agent is the way > they create their own Message-ID. Free Agent (well, at least Forte Agent > and I'd assume Free Agent a swell) generates a random number and adds > @4ax.com. Pan in its current implementation starts with pan. , adds the > date and time (numeric yyyy.mm.dd.hh.mm.ss), and finally adds the > @domain.name portion of the from email address you used to post the > message, so the total string format looks like this: > pan.yyyy.mm.dd.hh.mm...@domain.name . > > Perhaps the posting filter is keying in on the references header and > doesn't like something in the domain name part of the string repeated > more than a couple times, as it would be as the thread gets longer. If > you've munged your from address and/or there's something that looks like > sex or p3ni5 si23 or some such in that domain name, it could be deciding > the post is spam based on more than two occurrences of that string in any > header. > > Also check any custom headers you may generate, and compare from > addresses, etc. Who knows what it's triggering on? > > Besides asking them about it, there are a couple ways you can trouble > shoot. The most obvious would be an original post from FA, then replies > from pan, and of course the reverse (original from pan, replies from FA), > then mixed replies (pan/FA/pan/FA..., FA/FA/pan/FA/pan/FA/pan..., etc). > You can also use pan's draft message feature, saving the draft, opening > it with a text editor and modifying it (say removing a a message-id or > two from the references header, if testing the above idea), saving it, > then opening that draft in pan and sending it. Finally, note that pan is > available for MSWindows as well, and I believe I've seen reports that > Free Agent works when run in WINE on Linux, so you can test posting from > pan on MSWindows and FA in WINE on Linux as well. Not that such should > make a difference in what the server side sees and therefore can filter, > but it's a possibility for troubleshooting, none-the-less. ....also try posting to alt.test and not your providers private (0.XXX) group. -- Travis in Shoreline Washington _______________________________________________ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
