So, to that question a bit of Background. OmniOS is more than just
illumos and omni repo. It's also kayak and all their Projects. That is a
huge amount of projects.
There was work to allow installation of omnios illumos-gate instead of
illumos-gate by simply switching packages. That can work, because we
have consolidations and metapackages that bundle illumos-gate into one
tree of packages where everything depends on.
This work was started by Jim Klimov and me on the last FOSDEM but due to
lack of experience with oi-userland and make it never went anywhere.
It's in PR https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/5528
If anyobody is actually interested in picking it up.
And a last not on illumos-gate and stability. Originally the patches
omnios included into it's for of illumos-gate where still considered
experimental/not yet ready to upstream.
Now we see people saying those experimental patches are more stable than
the illumos-gate with stability guarantee in master. If anything is
broken from illumos-gate it gets fixed very quickly. The problem all
complaints are about packages from oi-userland not illumos-gate.
-Till
On 07.01.21 14:29, Guenther Alka wrote:
I forgot
What is the problem to install either pure Illumos or a Illumos freeze
from OmniOS and use the OI repository additional to the core OmniOS and
OmniOS extra repository to use the additional options?
Where are the problems? Is this only to have same packages in different
repositories or that OI would need something similar to the OmniOS extra
repository when using Illumos to avoid conflicts? Maybe this can be
solved to allow a underlying pure ongoing Illumos or one of the three
OmniOS flavours.
Please educate me.
Gea
Am 07.01.2021 um 18:08 schrieb Guenther Alka:
Not broken as it never worked
(multi purpose Illumos Unix with a stable/long term stable/newest beta
base).
OI currently: always and only newest beta based
so Yes: (maybe easy to say as I cannot help to do the needed work -
unsure about the needed efforts)
When I remember the first steps of OpenIndiana, the lack of a stable
was a constant item on all meetings.
When OmniOS started they first tried to use OpenIndiana as base what
was more or less OpenSolaris at that time with too many dependencies.
Then Illumos started as a minimalistic OS based on OpenSolaris and
OmniOS used this as base. Now as OI is pure Illumos as base and OmniOS
is more or less pure Illumos freezed in a fork per release there is no
real reason to have two bases and two software repositories for
different use cases with the problem for OI that the underlying
Illumos can change from day to day.
Gea
Am 07.01.2021 um 17:24 schrieb Chris:
On 2021-01-07 06:02, Kalle Anka via openindiana-discuss wrote:
Well spoken,, Gea! I am in favour of consolidating the OpenSolarish
community. If
merging would reinvogarate interest and momentum, it can be worth
it. And you guys
have been discussing this merging for ages, it is your old idea
taken up again. It
seems that several of you think this is the only way forward, in the
long run.
This is what we want to do. Base a desktop package ontop OmniOS
stable (or LTS). I
am interested in helping such an effort.
Some people say yay, some say nay. Should we create a poll, to see
how large the
interest is?
I vote: NAY.
There is no need to fix what is not broken.
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