I also own a project with mainly me and a few contributors (napp-it).
It's not the number of devs but the spirit to do something that matters.
You exactly point to the essential point.
With not enough people working on something not paid for doing without
hope and energy your only choices are sudden death (if you are the last
one to leave, please switch off the light) or slow death (nobody
discovered that you are already dead).
As I have used Solaris, OpenSolaris, NexentaCore and now use OmniOS and
OI, I would miss OI nearly as most as I would miss OmniOS. With only a
few people working on something it is a matter of surviving to bundle
work and not to do everything twice. OmniOS has a commercial background
that may help but there are also not too many devs for an OpenSource OS.
If all efforts in a free Solaris can be combined, its future is better
than when you seperate them additionally without real reason.
Gea
Am 07.01.2021 um 18:23 schrieb Andreas Wacknitz:
Am 07.01.21 um 18:08 schrieb Guenther Alka:
Not broken as it never worked
(multi purpose Illumos Unix with a stable/long term stable/newest beta
base).
OI currently: always and only newest beta based
so Yes: (maybe easy to say as I cannot help to do the needed work -
unsure about the needed efforts)
When I remember the first steps of OpenIndiana, the lack of a stable
was a constant item on all meetings.
When OmniOS started they first tried to use OpenIndiana as base what
was more or less OpenSolaris at that time with too many dependencies.
Then Illumos started as a minimalistic OS based on OpenSolaris and
OmniOS used this as base. Now as OI is pure Illumos as base and OmniOS
is more or less pure Illumos freezed in a fork per release there is no
real reason to have two bases and two software repositories for
different use cases with the problem for OI that the underlying
Illumos can change from day to day.
Gea
You don't seem to have read my former answers, so I will retry:
The most important answer you have to give is: Who will do the necessary
work?
Actual numbers:
Number of active OI maintainers: <single digit natural number>
Number of active OI maintainers with commit rights: 1
Number of testers (not also being a maintainer): 1
Number of admins (not also being a maintainer with commit rights): 0
More questions you should answer as a business man:
- Do you have an estimation of the needed efforts, eg. for creating a
minimal version (tdb!) of what you propose?
- What are you willing to spend to start/support these efforts?
We need to increase all the numbers I presented above before it makes
even sense to discuss a change like you are proposing!
OI is an open source project without any company background and without
anybody getting money for what he/she is doing!
As I wrote before: We don't lack good ideas, we lack people doing actual
work!
Andreas
Am 07.01.2021 um 17:24 schrieb Chris:
On 2021-01-07 06:02, Kalle Anka via openindiana-discuss wrote:
Well spoken,, Gea! I am in favour of consolidating the OpenSolarish
community. If
merging would reinvogarate interest and momentum, it can be worth
it. And you guys
have been discussing this merging for ages, it is your old idea
taken up again. It
seems that several of you think this is the only way forward, in the
long run.
This is what we want to do. Base a desktop package ontop OmniOS
stable (or LTS). I
am interested in helping such an effort.
Some people say yay, some say nay. Should we create a poll, to see
how large the
interest is?
I vote: NAY.
There is no need to fix what is not broken.
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