Excellent NLUG input as always. No she wants a filip phone and "not a computer" for a phone, so not an iPhone user.
Thanks to NLUG I met Greg Cooper Cisco network engineer at the first post COVID in person meetup and we have our VPN with Tactical RMM set up, so I can connect in to her PC and diagnose and address any issue remotely, so I myself am perfectly happy to keep making Linux work for every last little detail. Her most recent complaint was she couldn't find a video clip on our YouTube channel. I connected in and also couldn't see it, so I did a temporary workaround to put the video on her PC another way; turned out a simple restart made the video clip appear on YouTube where a browser reload didn't .. not on Firefox or Chromium. The complaint before that was remote connecting to a DB on Windows 11 that was typically Microsoftly unresponsive .. had to simply reboot (relight) the Windows dumpster fire, (but she complains thinking Linux is the problem) .. in the end it's just hilarious and I just love my job, not sarcastic for once, ever since I escaped Microsoft penitentiary. I don't plan to mention Apple Mac as an alternative. Looking forward to March NLUG meetup. On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 10:31 AM Kevin Hart <[email protected]> wrote: > My first thought is, is the computer really a problem or is this a case of > a lonely elderly person? She's been trained that a computer problem brings > you around or a phone call. Lot of these sorta situations are just that, a > Pavlovian response where you always come around for computer problems. > Unconsciously she does it because you are 'the good son' type that wants to > not have the computer being a problem. > > After that, yea Macs 'just work' IMHO but also the way they do stuff is > different so for an elderly person to learn a whole new way of using their > computer can be tough. I switched dad to a Mac in like 2012 and he > couldn't be happier up until now where that hardware is no longer supported > and that the way he uses Quicken doesn't exist anymore so new hardware and > OS would mean yet another way of learning how he does his money is just not > acceptable. > > You can get a MacMini for cheap that would be able to 'solve' her > problems. But do take note of what she does cause we still live in a world > where not every application has parity from each OS. That would let you > lay out fewer dollars to try this. Plus lets you reuse most everything > else (tho I do like getting new keyboards and mice since those are touch > points that make a computer feel new) and if she has vision issues monitor > choice is a real thing to think about. > > I would also say, how about an iPad? Does she have an iPhone or iPad > already? Dad is 99% on his iPad these days and likes it that way. Only > using his old iMac for Quicken. You can also set up a keyboard and mouse > for an iPad as well which turns it into more or less a Macbook. The touch > interface works for a lot of people. But for elderly , a lot of people say > iPads (or I guess an android tablet) are the best, being able to use the > 'computer' from her favorite chair/couch. > > > > -- > -Kevin > > "You can't turn a pig into a thoroughbred, > but if you spend enough time and money, > you sure can make a mighty fast pig" > > > On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 3:44 AM Michael L <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hello NLUG, >> I have an 82 year old computer hater that (rightfully) complained about >> Microsoft Windows every day for 19 years; switched her to Kubuntu LTS when >> Win7 ended, thankfully skipping Win10 and she's complained about Linux >> almost every day since, even though it works much better than Windows, at >> least in my book and I'm the end user engineer that has to listen to all >> the complaining and make it work. She's not interested in learning; can't >> explain anything to her; can't have one intelligent word, much less >> intelligent conversation about the least thing relating to computers. >> >> I want to ask those of you who use Macs if maybe a $1300 iMac desktop >> would work so absolutely perfectly that a computer hater would all of a >> sudden be happy? Or if it wouldn't work absolutely perfectly, would it >> maybe work hands down at least a little better than any Linux distro? >> >> I've been able to either promptly fix or promptly find a workaround for >> every issue; that is if I'm asked. That's just not good enough; she >> doesn't want to even ask; just wants it to work. Hardly ever is it an >> issue of Linux not working; rather it's computer pediatrics. >> >> I switched her from Kubuntu after two years to Ubuntu. I suspect that >> RPM distros Fedora or OpenSUSE might have a little edge over the DEB >> distros on overall desktop stability, based on my own past experimentation, >> so I might give Fedora or OpenSUSE a try. >> >> Should I even consider a Mac? >> >> Thanks to NLUG I escaped Microsoft penitentiary. 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