I'm, again, thankful to be on this email list. M On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Chris McQuistion <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thumbs up for Relax and Recover (REAR). I just got this installed on a > couple of our physical services (most are virtual). You can do a 100% bare > metal recovery with REAR and that is something that has always me nervous > about our physical servers. The backup target can be a number of different > things. It can be an attached USB drive, a remote NFS server, a remote > Bacula server, and lots of other options. > > Sure, we have backups of data, but to completely rebuild an OS, > reconfigure it and put all the data back in place is a pain in the rear on > the best day. With this system, you can just reboot a working system and > choose Relax and Recover from the boot mode or burn a CD and boot from that > (which is necessary in the case of a hard drive failure or something.). > You can restore the entire machine pretty easily. This makes me sleep a > little better knowing that our VoIP server and primary DHCP/DNS servers are > backed up in such a way that I can restore those entire machine in a matter > of minutes, rather than hours to rebuild and then restore from backups. > > Chris > > P.S. I do have to acknowledge that REAR is not the same thing as long > term archiving, but it could be used for that purpose. You can even backup > to tape for those that are into that sort of thing... > > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Kent Perrier <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> If you want to look at bare-metal restores, take a look at >> http://relax-and-recover.org/ >> >> Red Hat just included this in RHEL. >> >> Kent >> >> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Howard White <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On 05/17/2016 05:44 PM, Michael L wrote: >>> >>>> That sounds like something I would like to try. I'm thankful for >>>> getting to be on this email list. >>>> M >>>> >>>> >>> Michael, >>> >>> Your original post speaks to a broad topic that gets short shrift in >>> most circles because backup is boring. And try as we might, the backups we >>> _do_ make are never enough. >>> >>> First point, the term "backup" is ambiguous. >>> >>> Second point (to which you originally alluded), backup != archive. >>> >>> Let's take a swing at the difference. Backups are about providing >>> recovery for an information system. Archives are about replicating, >>> indexing and preserving data. >>> >>> So you need to ask yourself: self, what to I expect to accomplish with >>> these [ backups | archives ]. There are four reasons to backup and even >>> more reasons to archive. >>> >>> B1 - hardware failure, and not just hard drives. >>> B2 - software failure, and not just operating system or applications. >>> B3 - security failure (can you say crypto-locker?) >>> B4 - human failure, and not just rm -rvf / >>> >>> Bacula is a terrific backup solution that I have never had the patience >>> to get to work; I am jealous of Ben and Steven Critchfield for their >>> abilities to get that system working. I personally have an instance of >>> BackupPC running but it could use an upgrade and some verification >>> testing. Neither of these are truly archives. >>> >>> Oh, but you want to do a bare metal restore? A bare metal restore is an >>> operation by which one may take a backup "volume" and through the magic of >>> television cause a new instance of a given system to be running. Personally >>> for that requirement, I take images of critical systems with Clonezilla. A >>> Clonezilla image allows me to create a system instance even though I may >>> have to overlay critical data from other backups to complete a recovery. >>> >>> Oh wait! You've got databases?? Add a whole 'nother layer of storing >>> journals and database unloads to your plan. Databases may be complex data >>> storage systems that are not so easy to replicate. >>> >>> Having fun yet? >>> >>> Howard >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "NLUG" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en >>> >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "NLUG" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "NLUG" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "NLUG" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NLUG" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NLUG" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. 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