> Any "SmartNIC" vendor has temptation of uAPI-level hand off to the > firmware (including my employer), we all run pretty beefy processors > inside "the NIC" after all. The device centric ethtool configuration > can be implemented by just forwarding the uAPI structures as they are > to the FW. I'm sure Andrew and others who would like to see Linux > takes more control over PHYs etc. would not like this scenario, either.
No, i would not. There are a few good examples of both firmware and open drivers being used to control the same PHY, on different boards. The PHY driver was developed by the community, and has more features than the firmware driver. And it keeps gaining features. The firmware i stuck, no updates. The community driver can be debugged, the firmware is a black box, no chance of the community fixing any bugs in it. And PHYs are commodity devices. I doubt there is any value add in the firmware for a PHY, any real IPR which makes the product better, magic sauce related to the PHY. So just save the cost of writing and maintaining firmware, export the MDIO bus, and let Linux control it. Concentrate the engineers on the interesting parts of the NIC, the Smart parts, where there can be real IPR. And i would say this is true for any NIC. Let Linux control the PHY. Andrew