[Nant-users] Re: Obsolescing NAntContrib [was RE: [nant-dev] Re: [Nant-users] 0.8.3 final]

[Ian MacLean]

We are planning to move the most commonly used tasks from nantcontrib to 
nant. I posted a list of the tasks to be moved and where they would go 
some time ago. We should be able to move that process along for the 0.84 
release.

Ian

This has been debated many times.  The bottom line, as I recall, has
always been that the NAnt project team doesn't want to be responsible
for the quality or reliability of all of the items in NAntContrib until
they have been thoroughly tested and refactored.  On the other hand, the
Nant project teams doesn't want to make it extremely difficult to have
tasks enter the process.  So, NantContrib was born to be a place that
new born tasks could be added, and as they because more solid and
commonly used, they could migrate into the core of Nant.
While there may be some contrib tasks that many people use as core,
there are and always will be a few that are niche tasks.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 3:03 PM
To: Erv Walter; Foley, Cash; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Obsolescing NAntContrib [was RE: [nant-dev] Re:
[Nant-users] 0.8.3 final]

Erv,

I think what Cash is asking is the same thing I proposed a week or two
ago: solve the NAntContrib problem by merging the projects and
obsolescing the contrib project completely.  The NAntContrib tasks are
*core* to what most of us use NAnt for anyway!  Just move all the
NAntContrib tasks into the mainline NAnt source before streeting 1.0.
I have attempted and failed a couple times to build NAntContrib from the
sources I downloaded from cvs.  There are no released files for the
project.  There have been no nightly builds since June 03.  There's no
traffic on either the user or developer lists to speak of; the last post
to the dev list was July 30.  It seems prima facie an abandoned project
sans-maintainer and with no community or activity.
Some of us would like to help (okay, maybe just me), because there are
weirdities or bugs (such as in the SQL task's verboseness) but it seems
pointless to submit patches if nobody's listening who cares or can do
anything about it.


 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nant-users- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erv Walter
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 12:16 PM
To: Foley, Cash; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [nant-dev] Re: [Nant-users] 0.8.3 final

All of the NantContrib tasks are included as binaries in the Nant
   

0.8.3
 

release (look in the .\nant-0.8.3.50105\bin\ subdirectory of the
   

release
 

.zip file).

Get it here:

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/nant/nant-0.8.3.zip?download

If you want to build it from scratch or if you want to follow the
   

latest
 

CVS versions, you'll have more work to do yourself.

-----Original Message-----
From: Foley, Cash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 10:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [nant-dev] Re: [Nant-users] 0.8.3 final
Sorry if it is annoying to pursue this NAntcontrib thing here.  I know
   

 

this is the NAnt group.  But the NAntcontrib mail list looks useless.

However, there is a relationship between the two even if it should be 
one way (NAntcontrib to NAnt).  This relationship is made very clear
   

in
 

this thread of messages.  In order to round off NAnt for "Corporate"
use, certain functionality is needed but not seen as 'necessary' for 
NAnt core.  SQL, VSS and have been mentioned in this thread and the 
response is "it's in NAntcontrib".  So, the functionality of
   

NAntcontrib
 

is recognized for the "corporate" success of NAnt.

However, it seems that NAntcontrib is not very assessable. (I may be 
wrong.
Someone please prove me wrong!)   I can't seem to download a ZIP file
and
just use it the way I can NAnt.  While, if I have to, I suppose I can 
decide to make the leap to become CVS junkie and figure out exactly
   

what
 

I need to do to download, this seems unnecessary AND contrary to the 
accessibility objectives for the Corporate Target.  I feel like I'm 
having to jump through hoops to use the thing.  (And from the emails I
   

 

see, I know it's not just
me.)
Maybe the objective of getting "Corporate" buyin is more of an
   

atherial
 

experience than a real objective.  But if NAnt is to become a real
   

tool
 

with real buyin in the .Net development community then this bridge has
   

 

to built.

Either the necessary components from NAntcontrib should be brought
   

into
 

NAnt where it can be properly packaged or the NAntcontrib needs to be 
made more assesible.

Thanks, Cash

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
perotsystems
972-577-5842 - office
-----Original Message-----
From: Ian MacLean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 10:04 PM
To: Foley, Cash
Subject: Re: [nant-dev] Re: [Nant-users] 0.8.3 final
Sorry no. Binaries for NAntcontrib ship as part of the 0.83 release 
however.

Ian

   

Is the NAntContrib with 0.83 available for ZIP download?

The files section is empty

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=54790

and the "nightly build" is very old.

http://nantcontrib.sourceforge.net/builds/

Thanks, Cash

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
perotsystems
972-577-5842 - office
-----Original Message-----
From: Ian MacLean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 8:24 PM
To: Sascha Andres
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [nant-dev] Re: [Nant-users] 0.8.3 final
Sascha Andres wrote:



     

Yes I've overseen them. Sourcesafe is in NAntcontrib - which failed
       

to
 

build when I tried last time, so I never took a deeper look.



       

NAntContrib binaries ship with the 0.83 release. Unless you have to
     

be
 

using the latest cvs version of NAnt they should work fine.

Ian



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