yall, i think we can accomplish your requirements w/o making nant-contrib obsolete. it has it's place as the venue to extend nant. if i can extend nant for myself, why shouldn't i share my work w/ the community without "poluting" nant core.
if there's a whole bunch of nant-contrib tasks that are deemed core, let's move them there. those tasks that create dependencies to stuff that isn't common shouldn't be in core -- like, say, if i couldn't build/test nant because i don't use VSS. the real problem, IMHO, is that getting a nant-contrib bin (or source) doesn't get the matching nant core bin/source. the dependency is backward in the current offering (no?). also, there should be a way to auto-unit-test nant-contrib, just like nant. this is about nant-contributor discipline. also also, nant-contrib could be more granular, so if i don't want VSS stuff, i should have to get it. this does mean some development of nant-contrib infrastructure. i vote for improving it instead of scrapping it. /jean > -----Original Message----- > From: David Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 16:03 > To: Erv Walter; Foley, Cash; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Obsolescing NAntContrib [was RE: [nant-dev] Re: > [Nant-users] 0.8.3 final] > > > Erv, > > I think what Cash is asking is the same thing I proposed a week or two > ago: solve the NAntContrib problem by merging the projects > and obsolescing the contrib project completely. The > NAntContrib tasks are > *core* to what most of us use NAnt for anyway! Just move all > the NAntContrib tasks into the mainline NAnt source before > streeting 1.0. > > I have attempted and failed a couple times to build > NAntContrib from the sources I downloaded from cvs. There > are no released files for the project. There have been no > nightly builds since June 03. There's no traffic on either > the user or developer lists to speak of; the last post to the > dev list was July 30. It seems prima facie an abandoned > project sans-maintainer and with no community or activity. > > Some of us would like to help (okay, maybe just me), because > there are weirdities or bugs (such as in the SQL task's > verboseness) but it seems pointless to submit patches if > nobody's listening who cares or can do anything about it. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nant-users- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erv Walter > > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 12:16 PM > > To: Foley, Cash; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [nant-dev] Re: [Nant-users] 0.8.3 final > > > > All of the NantContrib tasks are included as binaries in the Nant > 0.8.3 > > release (look in the .\nant-0.8.3.50105\bin\ subdirectory of the > release > > .zip file). > > > > Get it here: > > > > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/nant/nant-0.8.3.zip?download > > > > If you want to build it from scratch or if you want to follow the > latest > > CVS versions, you'll have more work to do yourself. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Foley, Cash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 10:19 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [nant-dev] Re: [Nant-users] 0.8.3 final > > > > > > Sorry if it is annoying to pursue this NAntcontrib thing > here. I know > > this is the NAnt group. But the NAntcontrib mail list > looks useless. > > > > However, there is a relationship between the two even if it > should be > > one way (NAntcontrib to NAnt). This relationship is made very clear > in > > this thread of messages. In order to round off NAnt for > "Corporate" > > use, certain functionality is needed but not seen as > 'necessary' for > > NAnt core. SQL, VSS and have been mentioned in this thread and the > > response is "it's in NAntcontrib". So, the functionality of > NAntcontrib > > is recognized for the "corporate" success of NAnt. > > > > However, it seems that NAntcontrib is not very assessable. > (I may be > > wrong. > > Someone please prove me wrong!) I can't seem to download > a ZIP file > > and > > just use it the way I can NAnt. While, if I have to, I > suppose I can > > decide to make the leap to become CVS junkie and figure out exactly > what > > I need to do to download, this seems unnecessary AND > contrary to the > > accessibility objectives for the Corporate Target. I feel like I'm > > having to jump through hoops to use the thing. (And from > the emails I > > see, I know it's not just > > me.) > > > > Maybe the objective of getting "Corporate" buyin is more of an > atherial > > experience than a real objective. But if NAnt is to become a real > tool > > with real buyin in the .Net development community then this > bridge has > > to built. > > > > Either the necessary components from NAntcontrib should be brought > into > > NAnt where it can be properly packaged or the NAntcontrib > needs to be > > made more assesible. > > > > Thanks, Cash > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > perotsystems > > 972-577-5842 - office > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ian MacLean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 10:04 PM > > To: Foley, Cash > > Subject: Re: [nant-dev] Re: [Nant-users] 0.8.3 final > > > > Sorry no. Binaries for NAntcontrib ship as part of the 0.83 release > > however. > > > > Ian > > > > >Is the NAntContrib with 0.83 available for ZIP download? > > > > > >The files section is empty > > > > > >http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=54790 > > > > > >and the "nightly build" is very old. > > > > > >http://nantcontrib.sourceforge.net/builds/ > > > > > >Thanks, Cash > > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >perotsystems > > >972-577-5842 - office > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Ian MacLean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 8:24 PM > > >To: Sascha Andres > > >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: Re: [nant-dev] Re: [Nant-users] 0.8.3 final > > > > > >Sascha Andres wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>Yes I've overseen them. Sourcesafe is in NAntcontrib - > which failed > to > > > > >>build when I tried last time, so I never took a deeper look. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >NAntContrib binaries ship with the 0.83 release. 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