Shlomi,
Sorry, we have been postmodern for a while now, to go back to modern
would be yet more fodder for the haters.
Also, Moose is very much postmodern for all the reasons that have been
cited in this thread already. It is not just us being arty software
hipsters, but is truly what I believe to be the more appropriate
description of what Moose is and where it fits within the Perl
ecosystem.
That all said, if the word "postmodern" has negative or different
connotations within a culture (in this case Israeli) then any
translated materials should take that into account and perhaps look
for a better word that means the same thing.
- Stevan
On Apr 11, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote:
Hi all,
I hope I'm not going to start a flamewar or appear as too
domineering (which I
know has been an ongoing problem with me) but I'd like to make the
proposal in
the subject:
{{{
Let's start referring to Moose as "the modern Perl 5 Object System"
instead of
"the post-modern Perl 5 Object System".
}}}
The reason is that "post-modern" tends to have very bad connotations
in art
and philosophy, outside the narrow context of Larry Wall's
presentation "Perl,
the first post-modern language", which even many Perl programmers
are not
familiar with, and may give people who are first introduced to the
topic the
wrong idea. On the other hand saying that Moose is a *modern* Object
System
will normally immediately give people the right idea.
I know that it's cute to call Moose the "post-modern OOP system" but
it may
either make people wonder what the hell we mean, or may even give
the wrong
impression, so I suggest we drop it.
I don't mind working on the patch to the site and to Moose.pm to
change all
"post-modern"'s to "modern"'s, but I'd like to know it would be
accepted
first.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
P.S: of course, it could be much worse - Moose could have been
called "Moose,
the new age Perl 5 object system". ;-) (Though, for the record, I
like a lot
of new age music.)
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