On 25/02/13 03:44, Sebastian wrote: > On 25/02/13 00:57, Christiaan Welvaart wrote: >> On Sun, 24 Feb 2013, Sebastian wrote: >> >>>> Not to mention there is serious doubts the the 3.8.0 release >>>> will be good enough to work properly for all endusers when the >>>> fallback is dropped, so it would need atleast a update to 3.8.x >>>> as a followup later to provide something that actually works, >>>> wich comes back to lack of maintainers... >>> >>> I don't think Mageia providing GNOME 3.8 with the new classic mode >>> made using extensions, rather than the old fall back mode, would >>> cause loads of problems: >>> http://worldofgnome.org/gnome-classic-not-classic-all/ >> >> You are not making sense, those screenshots show that these >> gnome-shell extensions can't replace gnome-panel. > I provided that link to give people an idea what the GNOME Classic Mode > was about, who didn't really know anything about it or as such. I think > these are better at explaining about GNOME Classic Mode: > http://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2013/01/25/gnome-3-7-at-the-halfway-mark/ > http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/a-quick-look-at-new-gnome-classic.html > https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointSeven/Features/DropOrFixFallbackMode > http://lwn.net/Articles/526082/ >> Also, software 3D rendering is slow, you do not want to use it in a VM. > I tried out GNOME Shell in a virtual machine first with Mageia 3 Alpha 3 > or whichever milestone version had it working like that first, since > then run in someting later to like that I think, Anyway I was rather > impressed to be able to run it in VirtualBox like that :), oh and this > was on a computer with 1GB RAM. I think I might have tried out like that > on both my desktop and netbook both 1GB RAM, anyway worked well like > that for me :). Oh sure I think it took some time to load up properly > in Virtualbox, but once done WOW :). However of course I wasn't trying > to run Blender or 3D Games or something in the vm as well. >> However, we may be able to keep our "GNOME Classic" session using >> gnome-panel 3.6.x even with gnome 3.8. This would have to be tested, >> though. > I forgot to mention in my original email that maybe both the GNOME 3.6.2 > fallback mode and the new GNOME Classic mode could be used in Mageia 3. >> Do you even use it? > I have used the fallback mode quite a few times, in Mageia, and even > the Ubuntu 12.10 GNOME Remix, however by choice I tend to run GNOME > Shell, if I am able to on the computer :). As for this new GNOME > classic mode, no I have not used that yet. >> >> Shouldn't we first fix totem, for example? It has 2 menu bars: >> "Videos" and "Movie/Edit/...". Then, audio files stop playing after 1 >> second when "visual effects" are enabled. 5.1 channel audio also >> doesn't work right, but the same happens in parole (vlc and mplayer do >> proper downmixing). > Personally if I am watching video on the computer it's usualy Flash > video on websites. If I am playing video in a player though, well then > that's what I am doing, I don't really care much about fancy features > when playing video, I just want my video to work picture and audio :). > Also when I do use players I tend not to use Totem, well depends. >> >> >> Finally, totem can't play WMA files because of ffmpeg 1.1. I have a >> fix for that ready (update gstreamer1.0-libav to git HEAD) > Uhmm I thought it coudn't play WMA unless the correct codec is used > since it's a proprietary format? >> but maybe I need to worry about gnome 3.8 instead. Such an update at >> this time should be done properly: packaged and tested on the >> packager's machine first, and only when it all works committed to svn >> and uploaded. > Yep that sounds good to me, have it properly done on the packagers > machine first, then have it uploaded, if this update is going to happen. >> But even then we will likely find new problems that need to be fixed >> before release. > Well possibly/probably sure, but since Mageia 3 is now delayed to May > 3rd, that should give QA enough time to test it :). >> >> >> >> Christiaan
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