i mean "ILLEGAL to use"! On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:08 AM, @lex <[email protected]> wrote:
> When i said "the last hope" i meant to get the binaries for the r4p0 from > Allwinners (or perhaps from Cubietech). > It is not legally to use it from ODROID. > > On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 7:08:54 AM UTC-3, Siarhei Siamashka wrote: >> >> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 05:26:08 -0700 (PDT) >> "@lex" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 3:09:00 PM UTC-3, Siarhei Siamashka wrote: >> > > >> > > On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 08:13:46 -0700 (PDT) >> > > "@lex" <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: >> > > >> > > > On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 10:51:17 AM UTC-3, Siarhei Siamashka >> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 05:04:33 -0700 (PDT) >> > > > > "@lex" <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 8:42:32 AM UTC-3, Henrik >> Nordström >> > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ons 2015-03-18 klockan 06:17 -0700 skrev @lex: >> > > > > > > > I have looked into ODROID r4p0 blobs and headers and did >> not >> > > find >> > > > > any >> > > > > > > > EULA, perhaps it is kept with the sources? >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > http://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=4956 >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Thank you all, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > So, the last hope is what Siarhei Siamashka is suggesting? Any >> > > chance >> > > > > this >> > > > > > will happen? >> > > > > >> > > > > The "last hope" for what? What kind of *real* problem are you >> trying >> > > to >> > > > > solve? Why would you expect us going "extra mile" in supporting >> every >> > > > > minor proprietary mali blob update? >> > > > > >> > > > > I have already mentioned in this thread that the r3p0 mali >> driver, >> > > > > which is integrated into the sunxi-3.4 kernel sources, works >> mostly >> > > > > fine (partially thanks to a bunch of workarounds). It is good >> enough >> > > > > for running and/or developing OpenGL ES applications. >> > > > > >> > > > > Allwinner devices have had a reasonably good OpenGL ES support in >> > > > > GNU/Linux via the Mali binary blob for roughly two years already >> > > > > (the installation instructions are available in the linux-sunxi >> wiki). >> > > > > In addition, a relatively popular Raspberry Pi board could have >> been >> > > > > also used to develop OpenGL ES applications just fine. >> > > > > >> > > > > The intention was to ensure that when the open source Lima driver >> > > > > is finally ready, it can run a wide selection of useful OpenGL ES >> > > > > applications which were to be developed. >> > > > >> > > > Thanks for the answer. >> > > > >> > > > I have r3p0 running as it should, and never said it was not good. >> > > > "good enough" is never "good enough" for a developer. >> > > >> > > OK. >> > > >> > > > Yes i could go with Raspberry PI board, better support, better >> > > community, >> > > >> > > Well, this "better support" thing is very much subjective and >> > > stereotypical. >> > > >> > > > etc.. but i prefer ODROID and i have my reasons.. >> > > > Your work is remarkable, indeed. >> > > > >> > > > The *real* problem is i want to have linux all the bells and >> whistles >> > > > Android have for this platform, my bad. >> > > >> > > I'm not sure if I'm a big fan of abstract bells and whistles. I very >> > > much prefer practical utility. And I would be happy to have reports >> > > like this: >> > > >> > > "I'm developing this very cool open source OpenGL ES game (or >> > > application) and it runs with X FPS using the r3p0 mali drivers, >> > > but can be improved to Y FPS with the r3p2 mali drivers" >> > > >> > > Instead of >> > > >> > > "I don't like the version number of your mali drivers. The other >> > > guys have it bigger, so you really need to catch up" >> > > >> > > > But..but..but why you so upset? I did not want to start a war, was >> just >> > > a >> > > > question. >> > > >> > > I'm not upset. I'm just explaining why I'm not eager to waste my time >> > > doing work, which has no clear purpose. >> > > >> > > The ball is basically on the OpenGL ES application developers' side. >> > > Before nitpicking about the drivers, they really need to show their >> > > commitment by contributing something useful to the free software >> > > community. Today the drivers are in a *much* better shape than the >> > > applications. >> > >> > There are some people interested in getting this updated >> >> It's not enough to be casually interested in a bigger version number. >> These people should show up in the mailing list and provide more >> convincing reasons. Just see my previous reply. >> >> > although this is not a trivial task. >> >> The kernel part is reasonably simple. Because, you know, it's fully >> open source. You can have a look at this branch: >> >> https://github.com/ssvb/linux-sunxi/commits/20140116-mali-r3p2-01rel2 >> >> It is split into 3 patches to make things clear and maintainable: >> >> 1. Just an unmodified copy of the GPL mali kernel driver from ARM >> 2. The sunxi adaptation part (mali hardware resources description and >> the code for enabling clocks). >> 3. A 2GB bugfix which is needed for the Cubietruck >> >> Anyone can do something similar with a newer version of the mali kernel >> driver if the need arises. >> >> > Kernel is tuned to server side, and the author has not seen any success >> > story yet, as a learning pourpose i will try and see if i can get to >> > somewhere. >> > https://github.com/dan-and/linux-sunxi >> >> It is up to dan-and to provide full support for this code and resolve >> any possible mali issues in it. I have nothing to do with it. >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Siarhei Siamashka >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "linux-sunxi" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
