On Friday, September 30, 2011 10:19:40 PM Sven Burmeister wrote:
> Am Freitag, 30. September 2011, 17:12:01 schrieb Martin Gräßlin:
> > The bugtracker in it's current state does not help to increase the
> > quality of the software. In fact the quality decreases as the
> > developers have to spend time on managing garbage. Yes what we get is
> > garbage. Most of the reports in KWin are either a duplicate of a driver
> > bug (which has so many duplicates that you cannot miss it) or is a
> > duplicate which is already fixed. Most bugs we currently get are either
> > version 4.6.2 (latest version in Kubuntu) or 4.6.0 (latest version in
> > openSUSE). If at all there are useful bugs they come from Arch users
> > with a recent version.
> 
> So what's the reason for this? Why do distros not offer official updates for
> the KDE version they ship? I think it is because they are afraid of
> regressions. And it is because they do not have an expert for every
> component in KDE but would have the obligation to fix every regression they
> shipped as official update even if upstream would not care. So how could
> one solve this if the fact that distros stick to whatever version they
> shipped is not acceptable?

For Kubuntu we have done this for the last several release cycles.  4.4.5 and 
4.5.5 are available as official release updates and 4.6.5 is in final testing 
and 
will be shortly.  We don't generally do an official post-release update until 
the last point release has been done for awhile.  That's both to conserve 
manpower and to give a chance for any regressions to be exposed and fixed.  
When we do this update, in addition to the point release we also check the 
relevant VCS for unreleased commits that fix important issues.

So far, this has worked well for us and when we've had concerns about 
regressions, upstream KDE developers have been generally responsive.

We are worried about regressions, so we are careful about post-release updates 
but we do do them.  When I got approval to ship these updates the fact that 
KDE has a policy to only put bug fixes in these updates was an important part 
of getting it accepted (the Ubuntu project does not generally do this, KDE has 
a special exception).

Scott K

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