29.11.2017, 19:09, "Michael Jackson" <mike.jack...@bluequartz.net>: > I vote NOT to. -1. Each business has to decide at what point is supporting > the older hardware detrimental to their bottom line. For my business, I drew > the line at 2 major releases behind Apple which aligns well with Qt. I > service higher education and govt labs where people stay with hardware as > long as possible for personal or corporate IT reasons. I weighed servicing > those few clients with NOT having access to things like newer C++11 & C++14 > because I had to support those older compilers and for my business that just > didn't make sense. We _want_ to use the newer enhancements to C++ to make our > developing lives easier and create more solid and stable code that the newer > C++ and tooling brings. I communicate well in advanced our plans so that it > isn't a "secret" to anyone. I recognize that _your_ business may have > different needs and reasons than mine. There is no "correct" answer in this > discussion. I just need a clear road map from Qt about what versions of Qt > will support > which operating systems so that I can plan accordingly, and I have not had a > problem getting that information. > > We also had a MacPro4,1 (2009 era, Dual Quad Core) that could not be upgraded > to macOS Sierra so we turned it into a nice Windows 10 workstation instead. > Total Cost $150 for the Windows 10 Pro license. Linux would have worked also. > Those "cheese grader" MacPro machines just keep going. Nothing wrong with > them.
You seem to ignore facts that 1) many people don't use Qt for business reasons but have completely different motivation 2) Qt Project itself is not a business project But, as Thiago said, there is no need to vote (because Qt Project is not a democracy either) > > -- > Michael Jackson | Owner, President > BlueQuartz Software > [e] mike.jack...@bluequartz.net > [w] www.bluequartz.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Interest <interest-bounces+mike.jackson=bluequartz....@qt-project.org> > on behalf of Pavel Mogilevskiy <pmogilevs...@gmail.com> > Date: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 8:33 AM > To: "coroberti ." <corobe...@gmail.com>, Hamish Moffatt > <ham...@risingsoftware.com>, "interest@qt-project.org" > <interest@qt-project.org> > Subject: Re: [Interest] minimum macOS runtime version for Qt 5.9+ > > +1 > > Same here. We have users which don't have a chance for some reasons to > upgrade to the latest OS X version, therefore we are using Qt 5.8 > (instead of Qt 5.9 LTS which we are using across other OSs) to support > at least OSX 10.9. > > So I vote for support older OS X versions as long as possible. > > On 11/29/2017 3:08 PM, coroberti . wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Hamish Moffatt > > <ham...@risingsoftware.com> wrote: > >> On 29/11/17 14:46, Jake Petroules wrote: > >>> Why do you need to support older versions? > >> Because my customers are using them, right back to 10.7. They are > >> educational institutions with whole labs of machines set up the same > way - > >> they probably get one chance a year to upgrade, and for whatever > reason they > >> haven't so far. I can't stick to old Qt versions either because of > various > >> bugs. 5.6 LTS has issues with accessibility crashes on newer macOS. > 5.8 is > >> crashing in file open dialogs on 10.13. Thus I'm stuck. > > Exactly, my case with edu users. > > They are using Mac HW for up to 10 years. > > About 1/3 is not upgradeable anymore: 10.7 and 10.8 > > > >> I wish there was a bit more of a time window before you deprecate old > >> versions. 10.7 is no older than Windows 7. > > +1 > > > > Kind regards, > > Robert > > _______________________________________________ > > Interest mailing list > > Interest@qt-project.org > > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest > > _______________________________________________ > Interest mailing list > Interest@qt-project.org > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest > > _______________________________________________ > Interest mailing list > Interest@qt-project.org > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest -- Regards, Konstantin _______________________________________________ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest
