I vote NOT to. -1. Each business has to decide at what point is supporting the older hardware detrimental to their bottom line. For my business, I drew the line at 2 major releases behind Apple which aligns well with Qt. I service higher education and govt labs where people stay with hardware as long as possible for personal or corporate IT reasons. I weighed servicing those few clients with NOT having access to things like newer C++11 & C++14 because I had to support those older compilers and for my business that just didn't make sense. We _want_ to use the newer enhancements to C++ to make our developing lives easier and create more solid and stable code that the newer C++ and tooling brings. I communicate well in advanced our plans so that it isn't a "secret" to anyone. I recognize that _your_ business may have different needs and reasons than mine. There is no "correct" answer in this discussion. I just need a clear road map from Qt about what versions of Qt will support which operating systems so that I can plan accordingly, and I have not had a problem getting that information.
We also had a MacPro4,1 (2009 era, Dual Quad Core) that could not be upgraded to macOS Sierra so we turned it into a nice Windows 10 workstation instead. Total Cost $150 for the Windows 10 Pro license. Linux would have worked also. Those "cheese grader" MacPro machines just keep going. Nothing wrong with them. -- Michael Jackson | Owner, President BlueQuartz Software [e] mike.jack...@bluequartz.net [w] www.bluequartz.net -----Original Message----- From: Interest <interest-bounces+mike.jackson=bluequartz....@qt-project.org> on behalf of Pavel Mogilevskiy <pmogilevs...@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 8:33 AM To: "coroberti ." <corobe...@gmail.com>, Hamish Moffatt <ham...@risingsoftware.com>, "interest@qt-project.org" <interest@qt-project.org> Subject: Re: [Interest] minimum macOS runtime version for Qt 5.9+ +1 Same here. We have users which don't have a chance for some reasons to upgrade to the latest OS X version, therefore we are using Qt 5.8 (instead of Qt 5.9 LTS which we are using across other OSs) to support at least OSX 10.9. So I vote for support older OS X versions as long as possible. On 11/29/2017 3:08 PM, coroberti . wrote: > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Hamish Moffatt > <ham...@risingsoftware.com> wrote: >> On 29/11/17 14:46, Jake Petroules wrote: >>> Why do you need to support older versions? >> Because my customers are using them, right back to 10.7. They are >> educational institutions with whole labs of machines set up the same way - >> they probably get one chance a year to upgrade, and for whatever reason they >> haven't so far. I can't stick to old Qt versions either because of various >> bugs. 5.6 LTS has issues with accessibility crashes on newer macOS. 5.8 is >> crashing in file open dialogs on 10.13. Thus I'm stuck. > Exactly, my case with edu users. > They are using Mac HW for up to 10 years. > About 1/3 is not upgradeable anymore: 10.7 and 10.8 > >> I wish there was a bit more of a time window before you deprecate old >> versions. 10.7 is no older than Windows 7. > +1 > > Kind regards, > Robert > _______________________________________________ > Interest mailing list > Interest@qt-project.org > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest _______________________________________________ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest _______________________________________________ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/interest