That's the stuff. My mistake. On Sunday, 8 September 2013 22:38:27 UTC+1, Jeremy Shaw wrote: > > I believe that is HH-66. H-66 is a readily biodegradable, anionic, > phosphate polyether ester surfactant used a solubilizer for surfactants > into low/moderately built detergents. HH-66 Vinyl Cement is a superior > quality, fast drying adhesive. It is used extensively for bonding vinyl > coated and vinyl laminated fabrics to themselves or to various materials. > > If I do more building or repairs, I'll definitely give the HH-66 a shot. > > - jeremy > > > On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Gavin Harkness > <[email protected]<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> If I were to use CC and vinyl, I'd be following Tom's instructions at >> >> http://yostwerks.com/ >> >> I know he's only talking about vinyl to vinyl, but his instructions a >> very clear. I've built one of his kayaks and had no problems. Although >> I've have no other experience in using CC, I'd personally stick to using >> H-66. >> >> >> >> On Thursday, 5 September 2013 07:54:49 UTC+1, Steve Upstill (Swifty) >> wrote: >> >>> All I can say is that my experience of the vinyl-contact cement was very >>> different. I did all the work up front in the expectation of having a >>> years-long solution, only to have my hinges fail: the vinyl simply pulled >>> loose in the heat of the Playa (some places the vinyl just casually lifted >>> as if there was no adhesive there in at all), with a tacky substance on >>> both surfaces that made me wonder how it could have healed at all. Out >>> there, I patched like mad with bifi, and now I'm looking at doing the whole >>> laborious job over again next year. Crap. >>> >>> So what went wrong? I have three theories: >>> >>> 1) assembly problems, i.e., I put the CC on too thickly, or not thickly >>> enough, or I didn't wait long enough for it to dry, or too long >>> 2) the heat was just too much for it >>> 3) because I laid the vinyl on when the panels were lying on the ground >>> and abutting, actually folding them over the rest of the way put too much >>> tension on the hinge. I did it fairly tight because I wanted some tension >>> in the structure. >>> >>> If anybody has any information that would help me figure out which >>> theory is correct, I'd be enormously grateful. Could others chime in with >>> their experience? If I'm the only one with failed hinges, that pretty much >>> disposes of theory #2. Also, did people tape over the vinyl with aluminum >>> tape? I'm thinking that under theory #2, the shiny stuff would go a long >>> way to keeping the heat down. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Steve Upstill >>> >>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Jeremy Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I built two 6' folding stretch hexayurts this year. One was a >>> traditional design with camp danger bifi hinges. The other used contact >>> cement, vinyl, and velcro. >>> >>> The contact cement+vinyl+velcro solution definitely required more work >>> up front. But the pay off on the playa was huge! It went up and down so >>> much faster. And, it is already ready to go back up again. There is no >>> per-use consumeables and nothing that has to be cleaned off before the next >>> use. >>> >>> I have a bunch of video and other details on the build process that I >>> hope to upload 'some day' but the short version is, DO IT! >>> >>> - jeremy >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "hexayurt" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to hexayurt+u...@**googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> >>> Visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/**group/hexayurt<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt> >>> . >>> For more options, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>> . >>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "hexayurt" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<javascript:> >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > >
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