I believe that is HH-66. H-66 is a readily biodegradable, anionic, phosphate polyether ester surfactant used a solubilizer for surfactants into low/moderately built detergents. HH-66 Vinyl Cement is a superior quality, fast drying adhesive. It is used extensively for bonding vinyl coated and vinyl laminated fabrics to themselves or to various materials.
If I do more building or repairs, I'll definitely give the HH-66 a shot. - jeremy On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Gavin Harkness <[email protected]> wrote: > If I were to use CC and vinyl, I'd be following Tom's instructions at > > http://yostwerks.com/ > > I know he's only talking about vinyl to vinyl, but his instructions a very > clear. I've built one of his kayaks and had no problems. Although I've > have no other experience in using CC, I'd personally stick to using H-66. > > > > On Thursday, 5 September 2013 07:54:49 UTC+1, Steve Upstill (Swifty) wrote: > >> All I can say is that my experience of the vinyl-contact cement was very >> different. I did all the work up front in the expectation of having a >> years-long solution, only to have my hinges fail: the vinyl simply pulled >> loose in the heat of the Playa (some places the vinyl just casually lifted >> as if there was no adhesive there in at all), with a tacky substance on >> both surfaces that made me wonder how it could have healed at all. Out >> there, I patched like mad with bifi, and now I'm looking at doing the whole >> laborious job over again next year. Crap. >> >> So what went wrong? I have three theories: >> >> 1) assembly problems, i.e., I put the CC on too thickly, or not thickly >> enough, or I didn't wait long enough for it to dry, or too long >> 2) the heat was just too much for it >> 3) because I laid the vinyl on when the panels were lying on the ground >> and abutting, actually folding them over the rest of the way put too much >> tension on the hinge. I did it fairly tight because I wanted some tension >> in the structure. >> >> If anybody has any information that would help me figure out which theory >> is correct, I'd be enormously grateful. Could others chime in with their >> experience? If I'm the only one with failed hinges, that pretty much >> disposes of theory #2. Also, did people tape over the vinyl with aluminum >> tape? I'm thinking that under theory #2, the shiny stuff would go a long >> way to keeping the heat down. >> >> Thanks, >> Steve Upstill >> >> On Sep 4, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Jeremy Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I built two 6' folding stretch hexayurts this year. One was a traditional >> design with camp danger bifi hinges. The other used contact cement, vinyl, >> and velcro. >> >> The contact cement+vinyl+velcro solution definitely required more work up >> front. But the pay off on the playa was huge! It went up and down so much >> faster. And, it is already ready to go back up again. There is no per-use >> consumeables and nothing that has to be cleaned off before the next use. >> >> I have a bunch of video and other details on the build process that I >> hope to upload 'some day' but the short version is, DO IT! >> >> - jeremy >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "hexayurt" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to hexayurt+u...@**googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> Visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/**group/hexayurt<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt> >> . >> For more options, visit >> https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >> . >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "hexayurt" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hexayurt" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
