I am not familiar with the Lyris Listserve Manager, but I assume it has some sort of capability to enqueue messages which have either bounced or for which the destination mail server rejected a connection. I think Lyris retries sending (bounced or rejected) messages on a periodic basis on the assumption that the situation is temporary - at least until some threshold has been reached, whereupon figuring the situation is hopeless unsubscribes or suspends the e-mail ID of the subscriber.
In the meantime, I am anxiously awaiting word from Jeff Breidenbach whether he has some means of checking to see if the messages in question were actually received by Mail Archive, and if so, why they were not archived. William J. Kammerer Novannet, LLC. Columbus, US-OH 43221-3859 +1 (614) 487-0320 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Earl Hood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, 05 January, 2003 03:06 PM Subject: Re: [Gossip] Some Messages not archived to wedi-transactions On January 5, 2003 at 14:50, "William J. Kammerer" wrote: > Earl: Thanks for the suggestion. But as I wrote, most - but not all - > messages do get posted to the archive. Since X-No-Archive: yes would > most likely be something provided by the Listserve administrator for > every message, we should assume that this MIME header is not used at > all, and is not the cause of the messages not being archived. The X-No-Archive: can be added by the Sender directly. Side Note: I think if Listserv is removing such headers before resending to the list, this is a serious bug with Listserv. > In order to further illuminate the problem, I have included one of the > message's headers below. The message was posted my me on Thu, 2 Jan > 2003 15:00:56 -0500. I have every reason to believe it was received by > the listserver immediately, and successfully distributed to many > subscribers within a short period of time - I know this because I often > get responses from correspondents which include the text of my message. > But in this case, you can see that I did not receive my copy of the > message from the listserver till 4 Jan 2003 03:16:24 -0000 - i.e., 01-03 > at 10:16 PM ET, nearly 32 hours later!! And yes, the clock is correct > in the Date: message; as you can see, it's a message sent by me! I believe the date of the messages themselves do not matter. It may be due to delivery queuing by MTAs, either on your end or mail-archive.com end. Since some MTAs may be configured to queue for a few days, it may be possible the messages will show up in the next day or two. How does Listserv deal with failed deliveries? > Since the message has not appeared in the Mail Archives at > http://www.mail-archive.com/wedi-transactions@lists.wedi.org/, I would > assume either 1) Mail Archive never received a copy itself (not > implausible considering it took 32 hours to get to me!), or 2) Mail > Archive did not archive such a late-arriving message because it was > confused. 1) is possible and 2) is highly improbable. I'm not aware of any date ordering limitations in the mail-archive service. --ewh _______________________________________________ Gossip mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jab.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gossip
