On January 5, 2003 at 14:50, "William J. Kammerer" wrote:

> Earl: Thanks for the suggestion.  But as I wrote, most - but not all -
> messages do get posted to the archive.  Since X-No-Archive: yes would
> most likely be something provided by the Listserve administrator for
> every message, we should assume that this MIME header is not used at
> all, and is not the cause of the messages not being archived.

The X-No-Archive: can be added by the Sender directly.

Side Note: I think if Listserv is removing such headers before
resending to the list, this is a serious bug with Listserv.

> In order to further illuminate the problem, I have included one of the
> message's headers below.  The message was posted my me on Thu, 2 Jan
> 2003 15:00:56 -0500.  I have every reason to believe it was received by
> the listserver immediately, and successfully distributed to many
> subscribers within a short period of time - I know this because I often
> get responses from correspondents which include the text of my message.
> But in this case, you can see that I did not receive my copy of the
> message from the listserver till 4 Jan 2003 03:16:24 -0000 - i.e., 01-03
> at 10:16 PM ET, nearly 32 hours later!!  And yes, the clock is correct
> in the Date: message; as you can see, it's a message sent by me!

I believe the date of the messages themselves do not matter.

It may be due to delivery queuing by MTAs, either on your end or
mail-archive.com end.  Since some MTAs may be configured to queue for
a few days, it may be possible the messages will show up in the next
day or two.

How does Listserv deal with failed deliveries?

> Since the message has not appeared in the Mail Archives at
> http://www.mail-archive.com/wedi-transactions@lists.wedi.org/, I would
> assume either 1) Mail Archive never received a copy itself (not
> implausible considering it took 32 hours to get to me!), or 2) Mail
> Archive did not archive such a late-arriving message because it was
> confused.

1) is possible and 2) is highly improbable.  I'm not aware of any
date ordering limitations in the mail-archive service.

--ewh

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